Obama Not Met With Cheering or Applause from Marines During Christmas Dinner

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[chessplayer]

President-elect Obama stopped by the Marine Corps base in Hawaii Kaneche Bay where servicemen and -women were eating Christmas dinner in Kailua Thursday evening.

"Just wanted to say hi, hey guys," Obama said as he walked into the Anderson dining hall which was decked out in Christmas decorations.

The diners represented seven military units—Marine and Navy—some of whom were joined by their families for Christmas dinner.

As Obama entered the room, it was absent of the regular fanfare of cheering and clapping. The diners were polite, staying seated at their respective tables and waited for the president-elect to come to them to stand up.

[HungarianGypsy]

So, the poster couldn’t even come up with an original line. Precious.

[4integrity]

‘...CnC - that promised “civilian defense force” that’s as well funded and well armed as our military ...’

imo, the fact that this was completely ignored by ALL of the media, including Fox, during the campaign is as scary as Obama’s ‘promise’. I emailed the video of Obama speaking about forming the ‘civilian security force’ to many on Fox.....very little coverage, if any, and didn’t seem to take it seriously. I’d like to know what role this ‘force’ would play......a “leader” from the past also subscribed to this type of ‘force’....called brownshirts.

[RandallFlagg]

Pretty much.

[Mr. Jazzy]

Reports from my son, who is stationed at K-Bay, was that on the day he went to the gym to work out, everyone had a hard time finding a place to park due to all the security and press hogging all the spaces in the lots.

My son was not impressed with the future President and ticked off because the security detail cut back on his and the other Marines gym time.

Looks like a “little White-house” will be out there on Oahu.

[oldfart]

It’s been discussed - here and within the military.

‘Nuff said?

[cake_crumb]

It's military policy to be apolitical in public, which is different from assuming that nobody in the military has a political opinion one way or the other. The result of having a treasonous slimeball like John F'n Kerry running in 2004 is still very fresh in my mind, so I looked it up. In 2004, 73% of all active members of the military voted.

[cake_crumb]

Yep, it’s downright sinister. We should all be afraid. VERY afraid.

[4integrity]

Thank you, both, for your service.

During the Viet Nam war, a man named Charley Wiley organized volunteers (i was one) and a parade in NYC to show support and appreciation for our military serving in VN. As you both know, sadly, this type of event didn’t get much coverage (seems things haven’t changed much) but, like now, there were people who appreciated our troops...but, they were definitely not vocal enough.

God bless both of you.

[oh8eleven]

that would be hard to do, since the Marine Corps is almost 30% black Americans!
Minorities as a whole make up 30% of the Corps, African Americans are 10.4% of the Marine Corps.

o Hispanic: 11.9% of the Marine Corps (9% in 1995)
o African American: 10.4% of the Marine Corps (16% in 1995)
o American Indian, Alaskan Native, Asian, Pacific Islander, Multi-Racial, Other, or Unknown: 8.3% of the Marine Corps (4% in 1995)

USMC Demographic Update

[BenLurkin]

"Just wanted to say hi, hey guys,"

"Hey guys!"

[Amelia]

Wednesday when I was out doing some last minute shopping I was behind a pickup truck with large stickers on the back window - “U.S. Army Drill Instructor”, “U.S. Army Retired”, and “Obama ‘08”.

I’m not naive enough to think that everyone in the military supported McCain but I was struck nonetheless.

[oh8eleven]

I lived on LI (W. Hempstead) until the mid 60s and I remember "hard hat" parades in the city in support of the troops. Believe me, acts of kindness and support such as yours were truly appreciated and are remembered to this day. Thank you.

I may have been luckier than some. My mom was a WWII Navy nurse and my dad was USMC who fought in the Pacific. When I got home from VN in '68, I got a welcome fit for a conquering hero.

BTW, for those who don't remember the way it used to be ... "The 'Hard Hats' proceeded to storm the statue's base in anger and set up American flags, then pursued the fleeing protesters." Hard Hat Riot

[Seaplaner]

What are the chances we get a military coup during the next four years? I’ve never been in the military, but I’m sure these guys aren’t happy about their new commander and thief.

Nonsense!

You question our troops loyalty, and that offends ME! Those in uniform will defend the CIC.

Period.

I didn't care for LBJ when I was in uniform, but he was POTUS, and that's our system.

The fact that Marxist Obama chose to visit the gym rather than visit the wounded in Germany is not lost on our troops.

Nevertheless, our troops are our country's finest, and they will comport themselves accordingly.

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[Natty Bumppo@frontier.net]

The legal, institutional, moral, cultural, training, and leadership barriers preventing the use of U.S. military forces against U.S. citizens are far higher than most people can comprehend.

Anyone in the U.S. military who has ever been involved in a non-combatant evacuation operation (NEO) from a collapsing foreign country, search and rescue operation, human assistance/disaster relief/mass casualty operation, or worked with a non-governmental organization (NGO) that involved U.S. citizens has first hand experience as to the lengths the U.S. military will go to protect the rights of the American citizens; even at great risk to themselves and the mission.

While I agree that the possibility of a military coup is extraordinarily remote; if any administration were to attempt to use the military against U.S. citizens, the en masse response of the U.S. military would be to refuse to obey an unlawful order and force the matter into the courts.

If the administration were then to attempt to press the matter by coercion or force AND the legislative and judicial branches failed to execute their constitutional responsibilities; one possible result would be a tailored, surgical response against key leaders.

[CodeToad]

“I’d sooner see the devil at my Christmas dinner.”

They did.

[TET1968]

In a Civil War, there are no “citizens, just your side vs their side.

Remember General Robert E. Lee ?
He was not alone:

This is a list of Confederate General Officers who were graduates of the United States Military Academy, with their Class and the order in which they were graduated.

There is also a brief list of those Confederate Generals who attended West Point, but did not graduate.

Graduates

Name Class
ADAMS, John 1846 (25)
ALEXANDER, Edward Porter 1857 (3)
ANDERSON, George Burgwyn 1852 (10)
ANDERSON, Joseph Reid 1836 (4)
ANDERSON, Richard Heron 1842 (40)
ANDERSON, Robert Houstoun 1857 (35)
BAKER, Laurence Simmons 1851 (42)
BARTON, Seth Maxwell 1849 (28)
BEALL, William Nelson Rector 1848 (30)
BEAUREGARD, Pierre Gustave Toutant 1838 (2)
BEE, Barnard Elliott 1845 (33)
BLANCHARD, Albert Gallatin 1829 (26)
BOGGS, William Robertson 1853 (4)
BOWEN, John Stevens 1853 (13)
BRAGG, Braxton 1837 (5)
BRYAN, Goode 1834 (25)
BUCKNER, Simon Bolivar 1844 (11)
BUFORD, Abraham 1841 (51)
CABELL, William Lewis 1850 (33)
CHAMBLISS, John Randolph Jr. 1853 (31)
CHILTON, Robert Hall 1837 (48)
COCKE, Philip St George 1832 (6)
COOPER, Samuel 1815 (36)
COSBY, George Blake 1852 (17)
CRITTENDEN, George Bibb 1832 (26)
CUMMING, Alfred 1849 (35)
DANIEL, Junius 1851 (33)
DAVIDSON, Henry Brevard 1853 (33)
DESHLER, James 1854 (7)
DONELSON, Daniel Smith 1825 (5)
DRAYTON, Thomas Fenwick 1828 (28)
DUNCAN, Johnson Kelly 1849 (5)
EARLY, Jubal Anderson 1837 (18)
ELZEY (JONES), Arnold 1837 (33)
EVANS, Nathan George 1848 (36)
EWELL, Richard Stoddert 1840 (13)
FERGUSON, Samuel Wragg 1857 (19)
FIELD, Charles William 1849 (27)
FORNEY, John Horace 1852 (22)
FRAZER, John Wesley 1849 (34)
FRENCH, Samuel Gibbs 1843 (14)
FROST, Daniel Marsh 1844 (4)
GARDNER, Franklin 1843 (17)
GARDNER, William Montgomery 1846 (55)
GARNETT, Richard Brooke 1841 (29)
GARNETT, Robert Seldon 1841 (27)
GATLIN, Richard Caswell 1832 (35)
GILMER, Jeremy Francis 1839 (4)
GORGAS, Josiah 1841 (6)
GRACIE, Archibald Jr. 1854 (14)
GRAYSON, John Breckinridge 1826 (22)
HARDEE, William Joseph 1838 (26)
HAWES, James Morrison 1845 (29)
HÉBERT, Louis 1845 (3)
HÉBERT, Paul Octave 1840 (1)
HELM, Benjamin Hardin 1851 (9)
HETH, Henry 1847 (38)
HILL, Ambrose Powell 1847 (15)
HILL, Daniel Harvey 1842 (28)
HOLMES, Theophilus Hunter 1829 (44)
HOOD, John Bell 1853 (44)
HUGER, Benjamin 1825 (8)
JACKSON, Thomas Jonathan 1846 (17)
JACKSON, William Hicks 1856 (38)
JOHNSON, Bushrod Rust 1840 (23)
JOHNSON, Edward 1838 (32)
JOHNSTON, Albert Sidney 1826 (8)
JOHNSTON, Joseph Eggleston 1829 (13)
JONES, David Rumph 1846 (41)
JONES, John Marshall 1841 (39)
JONES, Samuel 1841 (19)
JONES, William Edmondson 1848 (10)
JORDAN, Thomas 1840 (41)
LAWTON, Alexander Robert 1839 (13)
LEADBETTER, Danville 1836 (3)
LEE, Fitzhugh 1856 (45)
LEE, George Washington Custis 1854 (1)
LEE, Robert Edward 1829 (2)
LEE, Stephen Dill 1854 (17)
LOMAX, Lunsford Lindsay 1856 (21)
LONG, Armistead Lindsay 1850 (17)
LONGSTREET, James 1842 (54)
LOVELL, Mansfield 1842 (9)
LYON, Hylan Benton 1856 (19)
MACKALL, William Whann 1837 (8)
MAGRUDER, John Bankhead 1830 (15)
MAJOR, James Patrick 1856 (23)
MARMADUKE, John Sappington 1857 (30)
MARSHALL, Humphrey 1832 (42)
MARTIN, James Green 1840 (14)
MAURY, Dabney Herndon 1846 (37)
MAXEY, Samuel Bell 1846 (58)
MCCOWN, John Porter 1840 (10)
MCINTOSH, James McQueen 1849 (43)
MCLAWS, Lafayette 1842 (48)
MERCER, Hugh Weedon 1828 (3)
MOORE, John Creed 1849 (17)
MOUTON, Jean Jacques Alfred Alexander 1850 (38)
NICHOLLS, Francis Redding Tillou 1855 (12)
NORTHROP, Lucius Bellinger 1831 (22)
PEGRAM, John 1854 (10)
PEMBERTON, John Clifford 1837 (27)
PENDER, William Dorsey 1854 (19)
PENDLETON, William Nelson 1830 (5)
PICKETT, George Edward 1846 (59)
POLK, Leonidas 1827 (8)
RAINS, Gabriel James 1827 (13)
RAMSEUR, Stephen Dodson 1860 (14)
RANSOM, Robert Jr 1850 (18)
REYNOLDS, Alexander Welch 1838 (35)
RIPLEY, Roswell Sabine 1843 (7)
ROBERTSON, Beverly Holcombe 1849 (25)
RUGGLES, Daniel 1833 (34)
SEARS, Claudius Wistar 1841 (31)
SHOUP, Francis Asbury 1855 (15)
SIBLEY, Henry Hopkins 1838 (31)
SMITH, Edmund Kirby 1845 (25)
SMITH, Gustavus Woodson 1842 (8)
SMITH, James Argyle 1853 (45)
SMITH, Martin Luther 1842 (16)
SMITH, William Duncan 1846 (35)
STEELE, William 1840 (31)
STEUART, George Hume 1848 (37)
STEVENS, Walter Husted 1848 (4)
STEVENSON, Carter Littlepage 1838 (42)
STEWART, Alexander Peter 1842 (12)
STUART, James Ewell Brown 1854 (13)
THOMAS, Bryan Morel 1858 (22)
TILGHMAN, Lloyd 1836 (46)
TRAPIER, James Heyward 1838 (3)
TRIMBLE, Isaac Ridgeway 1822 (17)
VAN DORN, Earl 1842 (52)
VILLEPIGUE, John Bordenave 1854 (22)
WALKER, Henry Harrison 1853 (41)
WALKER, Lucius Marshall 1850 (15)
WALKER, William Henry Talbot 1837 (46)
WAYNE, Henry Constantine 1838 (14)
WHEELER, Joseph 1859 (19)
WHITING, William Henry Chase 1845 (1)
WILCOX, Cadmus Marcellus 1846 (54)
WINDER, Charles Sidney 1850 (22)
WINDER, John Henry 1820 (11)
WITHERS, Jones Mitchell 1835 (44)
Those who departed before graduation

Name Dates
ARMISTEAD, Lewis Addison Entered West Point 1834; resigned 1836.
DEARING, James Entered West Point 1858; resigned April 1861.
FRY, Birkett Davenport Entered West Point 1842; resigned 1843.
GOGGIN, James Monroe Entered West Point 1838; did not graduate.
HUMPHREYS, Benjamin Grubb Entered West Point 1825; dismissed 1826.
KELLY, John Herbert Entered West Point 1857; resigned 1860.
KIRKLAND, William Whedbee Entered West Point 1852; resigned 1855.
LIDDELL, St John Richardson Entered West Point 1833; dismissed 1835.
ROBERTSON, Felix Huston Entered West Point 1857; resigned January 1861.
ROSSER, Thomas Lafayette Entered West Point 1856; resigned April 1861.
STOVALL, Marcellus Augustus Entered West Point 1836; resigned 1837.
YOUNG, Pierce Manning Butler Entered West Point; resigned May 1861.

[trooprally]

LOL, even if it was from a communications Vet.

Our MARINE daughter was in communications. She spent her first year out of Parris Island in Okinawa. Said all Marines need to be deployed out of the States because it gives them comradeship within the Corps.

When she trained Marines at Quantico on the field radios, she could tell right away those that had not spent any time overseas.

Being just over the minimum weight, she was the one who climbed to the top of their tents to fasten communication wiring. Got in trouble for it more than once.

[Mr] T

[painter]

BTW, for those who don't remember the way it used to be ... "The 'Hard Hats' proceeded to storm the statue's base in anger and set up American flags, then pursued the fleeing protesters." Hard Hat Riot

I remember seeing that on the news.

[An Old Man]

What are the chances we get a military coup during the next four years?

You better stow that crap buster! Someone is gonna kick your butt if you don't.

The patriots in the armed forces of the United States Swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, from all enemies both foreign and domestic. That is what we have always done and that is what we are going to continue to do.

[little jeremiah]

The two aren’t necessarily always contradictory.