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Lousiana: LaBruzzo considering plan to pay poor women $1,000 to have tubes tied
NOLA ^ | September 23, 2008 | Mark Waller

Posted on 12/23/2008 8:32:29 AM PST by GOPGuide

Worried that welfare costs are rising as the number of taxpayers declines, state Rep. John LaBruzzo, R-Metairie, said Tuesday he is studying a plan to pay poor women $1,000 to have their Fallopian tubes tied. "We're on a train headed to the future and there's a bridge out, "

LaBruzzo said of what he suspects are dangerous demographic trends. "And nobody wants to talk about it." LaBruzzo said he worries that people receiving government aid such as food stamps and publicly subsidized housing are reproducing at a faster rate than more affluent, better-educated people who presumably pay more tax revenue to the government. He said he is gathering statistics now.

"What I'm really studying is any and all possibilities that we can reduce the number of people that are going from generational welfare to generational welfare, " he said. He said his program would be voluntary. It could involve tubal ligation, encouraging other forms of birth control or, to avoid charges of gender discrimination, vasectomies for men.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abouttime; brilliantidea; demographics; eugenics; excellentidea; johnlabruzzo; lifehate; makesverygoodsense; margaretsanger; nazis; populationcontrol
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This was a hot topic on Louisiana talk shows when LaBruzzo advocated this back in September.

Out of curiousity, were callers to talk shows in mostly favor or against paying welfare people to be sterilized?

1 posted on 12/23/2008 8:32:30 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

Why not? The prenatal care alone would more than make it worth while.


2 posted on 12/23/2008 8:33:16 AM PST by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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To: domenad

Oh, I’m in favor of this. I just wanted to know what talk radio callers felt about this issue on Louisiana talk shows.


3 posted on 12/23/2008 8:34:42 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: GOPGuide

make it a requirement for welfare.


4 posted on 12/23/2008 8:35:42 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GOPGuide

I like this idea a lot. But why exclude men?


5 posted on 12/23/2008 8:36:19 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Vaquero

“make it a requirement for welfare.”

That is my preffered policy if someone wants longterm welfare.


6 posted on 12/23/2008 8:36:37 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: pnh102

He said it could also pay for vasectomies.


7 posted on 12/23/2008 8:37:14 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: domenad
The prenatal care alone would more than make it worth while.

Don't forget that many of these people skip out on that and it usually causes more problems for the children down the road which end us costing us even more money. It is too bad that this isn't a requirement for someone to get on welfare.

8 posted on 12/23/2008 8:37:35 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Vaquero

requirement for continued welfare after a 1 yr period...

Hate to require sterilization for someone going through a rough spot that fully intends to get back on their own feet.


9 posted on 12/23/2008 8:37:43 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: GOPGuide

This is immoral—it is formally cooperating in a sin.


10 posted on 12/23/2008 8:38:40 AM PST by Claud
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To: GOPGuide
This is one of those moral quandaries we have put ourselves into largely by abandoning the faith and values of our founders.

I suspect the exercise of liberty without the constraints of personal virtue was largely what Franklin had in mind when he admonished, "...a republic, if you can keep it."

11 posted on 12/23/2008 8:39:31 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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“This is immoral—it is formally cooperating in a sin.”

It would massively reduce abortions.


12 posted on 12/23/2008 8:40:18 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: Claud

Well said.

We should maybe remove (long-term) welfare recipient’s votes, but not their ovaries.


13 posted on 12/23/2008 8:41:12 AM PST by agere_contra (So ... where's the birth certificate?)
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To: GOPGuide

Norplant and saltpeter in the water supply..........


14 posted on 12/23/2008 8:41:30 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Million Minuteman March (Spring 2009))
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To: Claud
This is immoral—it is formally cooperating in a sin.

Why is it immoral? People who are perpetually irresponsible would make horrible parents for children. It is these children who, not asking to be born, will always suffer at the hands of irresponsible parents. As these children grow up, they become irresponsible adults who make even more irresponsible children who cause even more grief for those of us who have to pay higher taxes to fix the problems that can literally be nipped in the bud with a bit of prevention.

15 posted on 12/23/2008 8:42:00 AM PST by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: Claud

The way to stop irresponsible sex, if that’s what you’re referring to as the sin that this policy would be cooperating with,

would be to allow all consequences for those choices to be endured by those making the choices.

That means no welfare, public shaming of the man and woman involved, societal requirements for the man to financially support the child, etc.


16 posted on 12/23/2008 8:42:19 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: GOPGuide
"What I'm really studying is any and all possibilities that we can reduce the number of people that are going from generational welfare to generational welfare, " he said. He said his program would be voluntary. It could involve tubal ligation, encouraging other forms of birth control or, to avoid charges of gender discrimination, vasectomies for men."

He said his program would be voluntary.

They all start out as "voluntary" programs, and when they don't work then suddenly it will become "semi-voluntary", with only the biggest abusers of the system mandated by court order to non-voluntarily be sterilized. After a while the numbers start changing over what falls into their ideal category, a slippery slope that can be handed over to other administrations to be abused once it is in place.

17 posted on 12/23/2008 8:42:48 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: MrB

“That means no welfare,”

How are we going to get rid of welfare if we keep producing more taxtakers who always outvote taxpayers?


18 posted on 12/23/2008 8:43:56 AM PST by GOPGuide
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To: pnh102

Men don’t bear children?

This is a great idea, and should be a requirement for welfare and food stamps.


19 posted on 12/23/2008 8:43:59 AM PST by Boiling Pots (The USA has become one huge pyramid scheme. Thanks George, John, Nancy and Harry.)
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To: GOPGuide

Just stop increasing their welfare checks after the first baby and i think you’ll see a drastic reduction in births.


20 posted on 12/23/2008 8:44:08 AM PST by WackySam (Is the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on- or by imbeciles who really mean it?)
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