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Coleman's Lead Dwindles to 2 Votes in Minnesota Senate Race
fox news ^ | Dec. 18, 2008

Posted on 12/18/2008 4:44:52 PM PST by cdchik123

ST. PAUL, Minn. -- The tight Minnesota U.S. Senate race between Republican incumbent Norm Coleman and Democratic challenger Al Franken has become incredibly close -- with Coleman clinging to a two-vote lead.

That's the latest tally after the state Canvassing Board spent a third day ruling on disputed ballots. There are hundreds of challenges yet to decide, as well as thousands of withdrawn challenges that have yet to be tallied.

Coleman had entered Thursday's session leading Franken by 360 votes. But that lead eroded all day as the board considered a pile of challenges brought entirely by the Coleman campaign. The pile included a big chunk of withdrawn challenges, many of which went quickly to Franken's column.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: acorn; ballotstuffing; coleman; franken; howtostealanelection; manufacturedvotes; mn2008; voterintent
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To: cdchik123

I have been saying ALL ALONG that Norm will win by 1 vote - MINE!


141 posted on 12/19/2008 1:22:27 AM PST by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (It's not Obama, it's O-bey-me !!!)
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To: GnL
Those are all probably legitimate Franken votes. Made by morons, perhaps,

I think that goes without saying.

142 posted on 12/19/2008 1:31:44 AM PST by TN4Liberty (The first amendment doesn't end with "...as long as nobody is offended.")
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To: cdchik123
Like Ann Coulter's latest column says--this is modus operandi for liberals.
143 posted on 12/19/2008 1:58:46 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: caver

No, we are in Kenya.


144 posted on 12/19/2008 2:21:37 AM PST by Merlinator (January 20. 2009, A National Day of Mourning)
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To: cdchik123
I need to recycle this from the Florida chad count 2000

"Let me tell you about Florida politicians. I make them, I make them out of whole cloth, just like a tailor makes a suit. I get their name in the newspaper. I get them some publicity and I get their name on the ballot. Then, after the election, we count the votes, and if they don't turn out right, we recount them again until they do"--Edward G. Robinson to Humphrey Bogart in Key Largo

145 posted on 12/19/2008 3:41:26 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: LdSentinal
"Yes, but when those ballots show the same markings for Coleman, the board rejects them."

Examples?

146 posted on 12/19/2008 4:16:15 AM PST by DaGman
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To: publana

You know, I read the same thing about Republicans over at DU. Hmmmmm.


147 posted on 12/19/2008 4:29:17 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: henbane

Actually, it looks to me like 2 different people filled in the dot. Don’t you always make the same style of fill in?


148 posted on 12/19/2008 4:30:38 AM PST by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: DaGman

Here are several examples of the lunacy that is currently going on:

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2008/12/minnesota-canvassing-boards-mischief.html


149 posted on 12/19/2008 4:48:13 AM PST by Bitter Bierce
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To: henbane

That particular ballot was counted for Coleman, though, so what’s the problem?
http://senaterecount.startribune.com/ballots/index.php?review_date=2008-12-18&index=3


150 posted on 12/19/2008 5:09:47 AM PST by crazedsocialist
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To: raisetheroof
[completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.” Joseph Stalin]

And the democrat marxists and foolish rinos love Stalin and have done well in fixing elections with all this provisional balloting, early and late and even allowing illegals and illegals votes to be counted. The pubs are simply to weak and refuse to stand up, only the true conservatives are people who stand up to the evil left and middle rino parties.
We have 4 years to set up a new conservative party with real conservative candidates and that is not the republican party.
Again, we have 4 years to set up a new conservative party or the republicans will lose again by running more liberals than ever.

151 posted on 12/19/2008 5:27:43 AM PST by kindred (Conservatives, please abandon the G.O.P., start a new conservative only party.)
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To: dware
Interesting, but what more do you expect from modern day Republicans?

And, how about the people of Minnesota? Doesn't this rest squarely on their shoulders?

152 posted on 12/19/2008 6:01:46 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

It actually grew quite a bit before the canvassing started, to over 700 votes, but the canvassing process thus far has shrunk it. I’ve been watching bits and pieces of the canvassing board online, and it’s been very fair so far. Of the five members, two are Republicans, one is a DFLer, one is an Independent (appointed by Ventura), and one is a judge elected in a non-partisan election (though, in reality, I’m sure she’s a liberal also). So, it’s 2-2-1 split.


153 posted on 12/19/2008 6:08:24 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Theodore R.; Mogwai
It was probably a myth that MN was ever known for its clean politics. Surely no more

Why would you say that? I've been following the whole recount locally and everything has been done very openly and fairly so far. We had an incredibly close election - not surprisingly given the total losers running, and I think it's being handled about as well as it can be. The swings seen in the recount are actually quite tiny and typical in any election, but normally are not noticed because most wins are more decisive. Of course I don't want Al Franken as my Seantor, but I've been living in this state my whole life, and a result have no trouble believing that he could be the legitimate winner. The will of the voters should be recognized, whether you or I like it or not.
154 posted on 12/19/2008 6:15:36 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian

If someone cast NO vote for the race, I see NO reason to “assume” that they “intended” to vote for Franken just because they voted for Obama.


155 posted on 12/19/2008 6:18:07 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: weegee
They manufactured votes by claiming that voters INTENDED to vote for Franken if they voted for Obambi even though polls shows OBAMA(TM) was more popular than Franken.

No votes were awarded that way. Check your facts.
156 posted on 12/19/2008 6:20:11 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: KellyM37
It's getting to the point where "elections" in this country really don't matter. I mean, if you can alter the results after the fact, why bother? Just put The Chosen One in office from the outset, and save everybody the trouble.

The fundamental principle of a Constitutional Republic is being destroyed before our eyes. Political theory tells us that in a republican form of government power is vested in the electorate, composed of eligible voters, who determine who the representatives will be who form the governing body. It is clear from this election, as well as others (the WA state governor's election in '04, the Indiana congressional race for the 8th district in '84) that this principle no longer applies. The electorate is not choosing the representatives. They are being chosen by others (e.g., canvassing boards, elections supervisors, etc.), judges of "voter intent", etc. That it is being done under the guise of "fairness" and "counting every vote" and "divining voter intent" makes it all the more pernicious. When that happens, you no longer have a Republic. This is where we are today.

157 posted on 12/19/2008 6:25:10 AM PST by chimera
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To: tyke

I appreciate your rationality. I’ve seen my state’s election process repeatedly disparaged because of this, but I think it actually proves that we do indeed have one of the best systems in the country. It was a close election, so everyone is quick to yell fraud, but I believe that it was this close. We had terrible choices, and a result there was a lot of undervoting in this election. I personally could not bring myself to vote for Coleman due to a mix of personal and political reasons, and I of course couldn’t vote for Franken.


158 posted on 12/19/2008 6:27:28 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: cdchik123; All

Will someone please explain to me now if there is actually any chance Norm Coleman can still win this election?

The Franken/Pawlenty team keeps picking up votes.........


159 posted on 12/19/2008 7:00:05 AM PST by TitansAFC
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To: weegee
If someone cast NO vote for the race, I see NO reason to “assume” that they “intended” to vote for Franken just because they voted for Obama.

That is correct. The canvassing board would share that opinion. No ballots have been successfully challenged on that basis. Have you been actually following the recount process, or just shooting off your mouth?
160 posted on 12/19/2008 7:10:52 AM PST by MinnesotaLibertarian
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