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Stock futures slump after Senate sinks bailout
Market Watch ^ | 12/12/08 | Simon Kennedy

Posted on 12/12/2008 5:57:53 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

Stock futures slump after Senate sinks bailout

GM, Ford shares drop in pre-open trading; Bank of America slashing jobs

By Simon Kennedy, MarketWatch

Last update: 8:02 a.m. EST Dec. 12, 2008

Comments: 506

LONDON (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stock market futures slumped Friday after plans for a bailout of the auto industry fell apart in the Senate amid a dispute over union wages.

The last minute collapse of the rescue sent shares in car makers tumbling, with General Motors Corp. (GM:General Motors Corporation GM 4.12, -0.48, -10.4%) dropping over 34% in pre-open trading and Ford Motor Co. (F:Ford Motor Company Last: 2.90-0.35-10.77% 4:02pm 12/11/2008) down over 20%. Read more about the failed plan.

The failure to obtain funding could spell immediate problems for GM and Chrysler, which are most in need of the cash. The Wall Street Journal reported that GM has already hired lawyers and bankers to consider whether it should file for bankruptcy protection.

"The decision came too late for U.S. markets, but Asian equities fell on the news and there can be no doubt that the ripple of selling will roll on through Europe to America," said strategists at Moneycorp. S&P 500 (SPY:SPDR S&P 500 \ Last: 87.94-2.17-2.41% 4:00pm 12/11/2008) futures fell 36.10 points at 838.40 and Nasdaq 100 (QQQQ: Last: 29.09-0.82-2.74% 4:00pm 12/11/2008) futures dropped 40.75 points at 1,149.25. Dow industrial (DIA:Dow Diamonds ETF News , chart , profile , more Last: 85.86-1.78-2.03% 4:00pm 12/11/2008 ) futures were down 294 points.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: autoindustry; bailout; senate; stockfuture
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1 posted on 12/12/2008 5:57:53 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster
GM has already hired lawyers and bankers to consider whether it should file for bankruptcy protection

The sooner the better

2 posted on 12/12/2008 5:59:19 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Better a slump now than 10 years of slumps if the bailout had gone through.


3 posted on 12/12/2008 6:00:33 AM PST by GOPJ (Perverse incentives birth nasty unintended consequences.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; bamahead; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; ...
Big deal: stock went up after Obama's $1 tr spending speech and now going down on big 3 bailout failure. Both events do not bring any real change in the economic picture. Big 3 will die. It is only the matter of timing. Obama bailout won't do much except prolong the misery.

After some noise, we are back to where we were.

4 posted on 12/12/2008 6:01:53 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What’s good for GM is good for America.............Still holds true........No Bailout. Chapter 11 now...........


5 posted on 12/12/2008 6:02:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
What do all failing auto manufactures have in common?

UAW

6 posted on 12/12/2008 6:05:46 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper

Commonality doesn’t mean causality.

A more telling approach would be to compare the differences between auto industries that are profiting and those that are failing...

well, whuhduhyaknow!!! It’s the UAW again!


7 posted on 12/12/2008 6:08:16 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Red Badger

The thing is, after the the big 3 go BK, it will create a tremendous opportunity for new ownership to reorganize and create a new company, building on the infrastructure that’s already there.

Bankrupcy is the only way an investor will touch the big 3. It’s the best thing that could happen at this point.

I just hope it’s an American company that steps up to the plate and takes on the competition.


8 posted on 12/12/2008 6:10:50 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Gold & silver took a small dive this morning, too. I’ll keep ya posted on how it goes today. It had a huge leap this week, which was nice. Re-gained some ground.

I am so glad that the Senate held it’s ground. I’m completely surprised, actually.

No bailout. File, Big Three! File!


9 posted on 12/12/2008 6:15:49 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ('Taking the moderate path of appeasement leads to abysmal defeat.' - Rush on 11/05/08)
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To: ecomcon
All the Japanese auto companies are off over 10% on the news. The yen is flying and the dollar is dropping like a rock.

Wages will fall to the level of actual productivity. If the UAW won't cut theirs, then world markets will cut the wages of everyone in America, by lowering the dollar.

There aren't any options or choices, real wages fall, period.

10 posted on 12/12/2008 6:17:07 AM PST by JasonC
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To: MrB
Title as it should have read:

Stock futures slump after Senate sinks UAW bailout

11 posted on 12/12/2008 6:17:56 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Hopefully, there will be few Senators left from both sides of the aisle to realize the bailouts are gonna fix a freaking thing.

Hopefully a significant number of Senators will for the group "All Bailouts Stop Here". The depth of the global Ponzi is enormous and it must complete its unwinding.

In the meantime, all voters with half a brain need to contact all their respective representatives and demand that government cut spending to all but necessary functions.

Programs like Head Start, No Child Left Behind, social research funded projects, bridges to nowhere, legislative and executive pay raises, etc., etc., must have the plug pulled on them.

What I am seeing is the government now controlled by libs at all levels scrambling to raise taxes. That will be the brick that kills the camel w/ respect to an economic recovery.

12 posted on 12/12/2008 6:20:10 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Nonstatist

Yup.

They should have retained counsel awhile ago - probably back in July. The cliff was coming into view back then.


13 posted on 12/12/2008 6:20:38 AM PST by NVDave
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To: RSmithOpt
That will be the brick that kills the camel w/ respect to an economic recovery.

And liberals. Only they don't know it. Unfortunately, the damage to the country would be also enormous. On the other hand, only huge jolt can dislodge liberal parasites.

14 posted on 12/12/2008 6:24:30 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: MrB

Umm...actually most of the foreign automakers are getting bailed out by their governments.

The US is the only one not bailing out their domestic automakers


15 posted on 12/12/2008 6:26:00 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (2010: A RINO Purge Odyssey)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
More likely the drop in stock futures is due to the story about the Ponzi Scheme by former NASDAQ chairman. I'll bet that investors are even more skittish now WRT the safety of funds with even former SecTreas Robert Rubin coming under suspicion.
16 posted on 12/12/2008 6:27:28 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Breaking...

Bush is going to unilaterally bail them out with TARP funds!

What an A$$hat!

17 posted on 12/12/2008 6:33:00 AM PST by JDoutrider (Heading to Galt's Gulch... It is time.)
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To: RSmithOpt
In the meantime, all voters with half a brain need to contact all their respective representatives and demand that government cut spending to all but necessary functions.

Not likely. The single eternal truth to democrat politicians is that government exists to provide a middle-class lifestyle to otherwise unemployable people. Modern government is a jobs program. You cannot expect a democrat to cut spending when he knows such cuts will lose him votes. Government jobs = democrat votes.

18 posted on 12/12/2008 6:34:08 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze
I think it will also markedly affect the market. However, the full detail has not come out yet. Its full effect will be some days away, in my opinion, when people will be told which institutions or investments would be badly hit by this.
19 posted on 12/12/2008 6:36:26 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If an individual company stock — or “stock futures” in general — rise and fall on the news of massive Federal bailouts (or lack thereof), then the U.S. stock market is effectively functioning as a public utility.


20 posted on 12/12/2008 6:41:32 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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