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Why Is the Left So Threated By My Poll?(John Ziegler)
FOX FORUM ^ | December 3rd, 2008 7:00 AM Eastern | John Ziegler

Posted on 12/04/2008 1:22:51 PM PST by radar101

It has been quite a strange couple of weeks since I decided to commission a Zogby poll of Obama voters. I chose to do this at great personal expense to determine whether interviews I did on Election Day (for a forthcoming documentary I am producing on the media coverage of the election) were indeed representative of the larger population.

In a nutshell, here’s what happened next: I suddenly become a favorite target of the Internet’s left-wing attack machine. Zogby was forced to defend the poll and two days later, his organization partially abandoned it. The video of Obama voters trying to answer the same questions that were asked by the Zogby poll has been viewed over 1.6 million times on YouTube. After Zogby balked, I managed to to commission a new poll that included both Obama and McCain voters as well as a couple of added twists.

President-elect Obama on Election Night (AP)

What was most remarkable about the left’s extreme reaction to the original Zogby poll was that it was utterly devoid of even the pretense of addressing the real issues that the nationwide telephone survey exposed. Instead of debating the implications of the results (in my view they clearly revealed a massive amount of media-induced ignorance on the part of the voting public), they chose to focus on the questioners rather than the actual answers from Obama voters — clearly, the responses they gave made them feel remarkably insecure. They also completely missed the original intent in asking these questions. It was not to make voters look stupid but rather to measure the impact of media bias on what they knew, or thought they knew.

Essentially, the left-wing blogosphere went all “Joe the Plumber” on me and John Zogby. I took the heat. He, apparently, could not.

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To: WayneS

With the libs’ worldview, and definition of knowledge, this is a SEVERE BLOW to their entire fantasy world.

They consider knowledge to ONLY include what each individual can articulate, and discount any “wisdom of the ages” (common sense?) as worthless.

They consider themselves as worthy of making decisions for others due to their superior ability to articulate knowledge.

So, when a study shows them to be uninformed and unable to articulate knowledge about a general topic (the election) which they consider themselves to be superior,

it is a severe blow.


21 posted on 12/04/2008 1:37:52 PM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: radar101

ping for later


22 posted on 12/04/2008 1:39:19 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama says: "I only need to buy 40% of voters with handouts and trick another 11%")
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To: radar101
[Among] Women under 55 . . . 95% of them knew that Palin was the candidate with a pregnant teenage daughter.

Yes, these were the ones "exposed" to Entertainment Tonight and Access Hollywood.

23 posted on 12/04/2008 1:39:44 PM PST by Oratam
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To: mnehrling

This analysis will be used by the RNC & DNC as a factor in the next election........................


24 posted on 12/04/2008 1:49:15 PM PST by Red Badger (Never has a man risen so far, so fast and is expected to do so much, for so many, with so little...)
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To: mnehrling
That would be a funny thread to read on DU. I got 32/33 on that quiz. The last question was quite arguable, as the answer they wanted would have been correct had they mentioned a "per capita" tax in the question. Alas, they did not.
25 posted on 12/04/2008 1:50:26 PM PST by zeugma (Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
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To: radar101

This is one of many:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl0WwC9OcOI&feature=related


26 posted on 12/04/2008 1:51:17 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Reagan is back, and this time he's a woman.)
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To: radar101

The pollster can’t possibly be serious about his question.

Hasn’t he been aware of the blind allegiance to O and the absolute hatred to anyone who doesn’t get that tingle down their leg.

It’s disingenuous to ask the question.


27 posted on 12/04/2008 1:58:00 PM PST by Carley (Prayers for Sgt. Eddie Ryan)
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To: zeugma

Same here, I got all the questions right but the last one. Even after I read the answer, I felt that my answer was better than the other.


28 posted on 12/04/2008 1:59:36 PM PST by qwertypie
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To: TomServo
Archaic use, but still a word. "threat (thrět) Pronunciation Key n. An expression of an intention to inflict pain, injury, evil, or punishment. An indication of impending danger or harm. One that is regarded as a possible danger; a menace. tr.v. threat·ed, threat·ing, threats Archaic To threaten. [Middle English, from Old English thrēat, oppression; see treud- in Indo-European roots.] "
29 posted on 12/04/2008 2:00:19 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: WayneS

I’ve heard this guy speak-—he’s a moron. Embrace him at your own peril.


30 posted on 12/04/2008 2:10:03 PM PST by soupcon
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To: WayneS

Also, because it exposes the extent of media complicity in Obama’s election. The MSM gave Obama literally billions of BILLIONS in “in kind” contributions.


31 posted on 12/04/2008 2:33:25 PM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: radar101
Obama voters mostly ignorant cretins, who would have ever thought that?!
32 posted on 12/04/2008 2:35:18 PM PST by jla
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To: zeugma

Most of the DUmmies are busy leaving nasty comments at the link on Fox.....LOL. Maybe we can catch them there.


33 posted on 12/04/2008 2:41:48 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: radar101; Fred Nerks; SatinDoll; LucyT
Wait until the electorate discover the MSM lied on cogent facts about Obama.

Americans do not like to be called "Dumb and Dumber"

Never again will the MSM be trusted.

Printed News has tanked already. Soon TV news and associated programs will tank as well.

TV programming will become a relic handed over to the sports channels.

About time, too!

34 posted on 12/04/2008 3:31:54 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: radar101

This shows that Republicans need to spend a little time educating fellow Republicans, and it shows that leftnuts can’t be educated, but the right slogans might work on them. Keep it simple.


35 posted on 12/04/2008 3:46:43 PM PST by pallis
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To: Reaganite1984; rmlew; Yehuda; neverdem; firebrand; Clemenza

ping


36 posted on 12/04/2008 4:26:47 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: mnehrling

I don’t think a poll has to be before an election (or anything else) in order to be a poll.

It’s just a count, usual in percentage of people’s opinions, preferences, activities, knowledge, etc.

Ziegler goes on to analyze the results of the poll, but it’s still a poll.


37 posted on 12/04/2008 4:29:17 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Cacique; radar101
Women under 55 did worse than they might have by guessing on four of the thirteen questions yet 95% of them knew that Palin was the candidate with a pregnant teenage daughter. — Even 95% of those in this demographic group who didn’t know “Congressional control” got this question correct.

Friend of mine before the election: "What did you think of Cindy's $300,000 outfit?" [of course it wasn't, but that came later]

Me: "I don't like to discuss the clothes the candidates' wives are wearing." [snooty, but correct]

Friend: "But didn't you think it should have looked like something, for that much money?" [actually I thought it was gorgeous but refused to participate]

Women have such a long way to go. And most of them don't even know it.

38 posted on 12/04/2008 5:27:14 PM PST by firebrand
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To: zeugma

Exactly.

That’s why I “missed” that one too.


39 posted on 12/05/2008 4:24:46 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: soupcon

Embrace WHO?

I have NO IDEA what you are talking about.


40 posted on 12/05/2008 4:26:51 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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