As to that b**ch Florence, I dunno...
Posted on 12/03/2008 4:16:39 PM PST by dascallie
My fear.
The Supremes are going into closed conference this Friday to vote on whether or not to schedule oral presentation of the Obama eligibility suit.
At least 4 of the 9 justices have to vote yes for it to be scheduled. This is the protocol for all cases….very few ( far less than 10% from what I understand) ever get scheduled for oral hearings.
In this case, it seems there is always a technicality that shuts down the process.
And I have to wonder about the dilemma the justices must feel…if they were to vote to schedule hearings–it will be explosive.
And they know this.
On the other hand how does Chief Justice Roberts with his pledge to uphold the Constitution swear in a man as US President if he has doubts as to whether the man lied to the American people and is not a citizen?
Answer: He keeps himself remote from the most incriminating information so that he is not faced with this moral dilemma. He stays on the surface, drawing no conclusions, deductions, giving benefit of the doubt to Obama--as President Elect. He and all the justices go into hyper-automoton mode.
So I tend to think–unfortunately–that the justices DO NOT WANT TO KNOW because in "knowing" they will inevitably be forced to have doubts--–which will unequivocably force a hearing.
I think they will likely vote to keep the Pandora’s box closed on some “technicality”. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
Sad but true.
Won’t their deliberation be over who has standing to file such a suit, rather than the merits of the case itself?
“lack of standing” is what has stonewalled every petitioner to date
Will they expand upon who or what has the “standing” to demand the verification of the credentials of a candidate for the US presidency?
For the umpteenth time, what is the difference between a certificate of live birth and a birth certificate?
The Vote will be 0 to 9 and without comment.
This case will not move forward.
It isn’t a question of avoiding trouble for SC Justices, or taking the easy out. There’s gonna be trouble either way. I’d think having the Constitution backing up your action would be the deciding factor. But that’s just me.
If the Supreme Court does NOT step up to getting to the truth on this matter — then the next presential term will be DOGGED by this issue and the question will eventually render the Office of the President as inoperative.
This not NOT going away.
Yes and I feel the unwritten subtext will be the rationale I put forward...but NEVER admitted to in 1000 years.
The Beauty of technicality to hide all warts.
All of this, however, comports with human nature which has prevented Republics from lasting much longer than we have. More's the pity.
We live in interesting times.
As to that b**ch Florence, I dunno...
So, then you must believe that Robers, Scalia, Thomas and Alito will choose not to uphold the Constitution?
If Obama were a citizen, why was he travelling under a foreign passport during and after his college years???
I think they need to remember that the US constitution is the supreme law of the land and overrules even the voters.
I'm hoping for howls of derisive laughter.
Regardless of what you think about Donofrio’s contended meaning of “natural born citizen,” his suit has several layers, one of which most certainly is a valid and pressing concern: the New Jersey Secretary Of State is tasked with certifying the eligibility of candidates, and in fact failed to do so, in allowing Roger Calero on the ballot.
So, I’m not clear on the source of your certainty, as far as your take on the possible disposition of the matter.
“The Vote will be 0 to 9 and without comment.
This case will not move forward”.
...this is due ENTIRELY to the fact that the American people are stupid and blind to the Constitution and what it represents. Race riots, civil war, god knows what will happen because a majority don’t get the implications, dishonesty and crises that will arise. We will have a non-President. We will have NO legitimate leadership. Other countries know this. Treaties, laws, anything signed by BO will be worthless.
>For the umpteenth time, what is the difference between a certificate of live birth and a birth certificate?
The Birth Certificate holds all of the data, like time/date, doctor delivering, etc... the Certificate of Live Birth is a “simplified” version whose data comes from the Birth Certificate and it basically says that he wasn’t stillborn.
Now, the interesting thing is that the Certification of Live Birth is not a “valid enough” document for most things like: getting a passport, drivers license, security clearance, registering/joining exclusive hereditary societies like “Descendants of the Mayflower”.
Using logic is meaningless...the Supremes decide.
I would love to believe they will.
I am saying —out of sheer workman-like pragmatism in avoiding the firestorm and probable civil unrest, they will vote to not open the suit—not that this would ever be their stated rationale EVER—it would be based on ‘lack of standing’ again.
NOW, Alan Keyes can probably argue that he was personally damaged by Obama’s duplicity...so will watch that case.
One is more formal, and informative than the other. This is what Obama has sealed, and refuses to produce for $10, but fights for $500,000-$800,000.
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