Posted on 11/20/2008 8:28:49 AM PST by Candor7
On December 5, 2008, only ten days before the electoral college votes, the nine Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court will meet in private to review Obama's citizenship status.
Leo Donofrio's case, "Leo C. Donofrio, v. Nina Mitchell Wells, Secretary of State of the State of New Jersey, United States Supreme Court Docket No. 08A407," regarding Obama's citizenship has reached a new level. The case has been "distributed for conference."
This docketing today by the court should send ripples of fear through the Obama camp. Obama has been proceeding at lightening speed to put together a cabinet and take possession of the White House with the hope that he won't have to answer the question of whether or not he was "at birth" a "natural born citizen."
Every major news network, print and cable news like FOX, CNN and MSNBC, have ignored all the court cases challenging Obama's eligibility as sore losers or conspiracy theories. It might be in their best interest at this point to report this critically important meeting to take place on December 5, 2008, or lose what little credibility they have left.
If four of the nine Justices vote to hear the case in full review, oral argument may be ordered. The conference is scheduled for December 5, 2008, ten days before the meeting of the Electoral College…
The case originally sought, pre-election, to have the names of Barack Obama, John McCain, and Roger Calero removed from New Jersey ballots, and for a stay of the "national election" pending Supreme Court review of whether those candidates were eligible under the Constitution as natural born Citizens, as is required by Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution of the United States.
Leo Donofrio brought his case from a lower New Jersey court to the NJ Supreme Court -- was denied -- and then he filed an emergency stay application in the United States Supreme Court on Nov. 3, 2008, before the Honorable Associate Justice David Souter. Justice Souter denied the emergency stay application on Nov. 6.
Leo Donofrio renewed the application, as per Supreme Court Rule 22.4, to the Honorable Associate Justice Clarence Thomas by way of Express mail on Nov. 14. The application arrived at the Supreme Court on Nov. 17 and was submitted directly to Justice Thomas.
On Nov. 19, the case was docketed for full conference of all nine Justices and scheduled for December 5, 2008. It is not known at this time the exact details of how the case came to be "DISTRIBUTED for Conference".
Background on "The Justices Conference" is discussed as follows by the Supreme Court Historical Society:
"No outsider enters the room during conference. The junior Associate Justice acts as "doorkeeper," sending for reference material, for instance, and receiving it at the door...
Five minutes before conference time, 9:30 or 10 a.m., the Justices are summoned. They exchange ritual handshakes and settle down at the long table. The Chief sits at the east end; the other Justices sit at places they have chosen in order of their seniority…
The Chief Justice opens the discussion, summarizing each case. The senior Associate Justice speaks next, and comment passes down the line. To be accepted for review, a case needs only four votes, fewer than the majority required for a decision on the case itself. Counsel for the litigants are directed to submit their printed briefs so that each Justice has a set several weeks before argument.
“Repeat after me: It’s All Bush’s Fault! “
No, now it is Zero’s Fault!!!!
Some will argue that Zero is Bush's fault.
That's my opinion. I could be wrong.
Oops. January 8th should be December 15th.
Insofar as they do, sometimes they're faced with a firestorm whichever way they go. If the "natural born" question isn't resolved by January 20, it will continue to accumulate speed & hysteria, and a growing number of citizens will have reason to question the administration's legitimacy - with easily dire consequences. Firestorm now, or firestorm later - some choice.
Aren't the ins and outs of this fascinating?
To paraphrase Al-Zawahiri, Biden is the real “house negro” if you take that phrase at a literal sense.
I said when Biden was picked as VP candidate that he was on the ticket because of one reason - he’s the token white “WASP” guy.
So does it all boil down to “jurisdiction.” Do you think SPOTUS will say they do not have “jurisdiction” here? I don’t think they will do this here.
Although if the Secretary of State did their job in each state and verified maybe we wouldn’t have needed to go to the SPOTUS.
I think the “natural born” issue is what it boils down to and not the actual original birth certificate. Leo Donofrio discussed it in great detail on Plain Radio a few days ago.
Now, if the "winner" is suddenly declared ineligible... well, then it gets interesting.
What I find hard to believe is that someone has gotten this far along in the process without his eligibility being absolutely, beyond question, 100% verified.
And how do you determine naturalization laws without first defining natural born? Especially since the Constitution itself doesn't do so?
Well, not really.
List of Electors Bound by State Law and Pledges, as of November 2000
and
Must electors vote for the candidate who won their State's popular vote?
The Supreme Court has held that the Constitution does not require that electors be completely free to act as they choose and therefore, political parties may extract pledges from electors to vote for the parties' nominees. Some State laws provide that so-called "faithless electors" may be subject to fines or may be disqualified for casting an invalid vote and be replaced by a substitute elector.
A problem is that Obama isn't the President-Elect until Dec 15th so the Constitution is mum on what the procedure is right now.
I agree. If the guy is ineligible it's amazing that he's gotten this far. His Illinois law license stated "no alias". But he was Barry Soetoro in Indonesia. No one even checked back then. Then again, what am I thinking? Illniois vet someone?!
Wonder if Biden minded being the “token white”?
They exchange ritual handshakes
what the heck?
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After Obammie takes office......
They exchange ritual fist bumps.
If the Brethren were so inclined, they could finesse it under the Commerce Clause. Ghu knows there’s enough precedent, and this time for once they’d be doing it for the right reason.
Ah, I think the term natural born just means citizen at birth -- born as a natural citizen.
Anyone that is naturalized becomes a citizen but wasn't born one.
Agreed. And Congress has determined who is a natural born citizen. The applicable law has been posted many times.
Biden was probably too giddy to be considered for VP to even realize that he was just being used.
Any way you look at it it's gonna be an interesting few weeks. I'm glad SCOTUS at least decided to take a look at it. Seems to me that if there's ever a question about anyone's eligibility it needs to be investigated. Shoot, file a legal birth certificate when you file to run. Then we can check the age requirement, too.
For Biden it was a resurrected dream.
It will be very interesting to see what SCOTUS does and their reasoning behind any action. Or inaction. And I wish that from now on anyone running for office needed to file a BC. I am amazed that they don't have to.
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