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Catholic Bishops finally step up against abortion Democrats
The Collins Report ^ | November 20, 2008 | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 11/20/2008 5:21:26 AM PST by jmaroneps37

America’s Catholic Bishops are making their voices heard on abortion. Seeing 52% of Catholics vote for Barack Obama, has shocked them into action.

They are taking their fight directly to Catholic politicians who support and promote the destruction of innocent babies. The Bishops are starting at the top and sparing no one. They have publicly vowed to confront President elect Obama and his putatively Roman Catholic Vice President elect Joseph Biden on the issue of abortion. They are also warning all Catholics that supporting abortion is a sin.

This is a new and encouraging development. In the past, the bishops only talked a good game about abortion, now they’re backing up their words with meaningful actions. Close to sixty Catholic Bishops intend to withhold Holy Communion from Catholic politicians in their diocese who support and promote abortion. Some have extended this policy to individual Catholics as well.

This is a serious challenge to Catholic politicians. Many will be forced to answer the question of what religion they practice: Catholicism or Democratism.

This campaign’s lack of media references to Biden being a Catholic might be an indication it’s getting the message: Abortion supporting Catholic Democrats will no longer get a pass from their Church on their positions.

Those calling themselves adherent Catholics will be tested as well.

Unless the Democrats start running Catholics who defend life, eventually the Bishops will start instructing Catholics not to support them at the risk of committing a mortal sin.

The Bishops are also talking about closing Catholic hospitals rather than knuckle under to Blue State demands to do abortions or lose funding.

Standing on principles has worked for the Church in the past. It will work again. Big changes are coming to the American Catholic Church.

Welcome to the fight Catholic Bishops; we need you.

(Excerpt) Read more at :www.collinsreport.net ...


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This situation could lead to a split of the Roman Catholic Church in America. That sounds alarmist, but what else can the eventual outcome be? Some formally Catholic Democrats have left the Church over their love of abortion. It's not hard to envision a whole new "American Catholic Church" that would allow all the things Abortion/gay marriage supporting Democrats to fool themselves into thinking they are moral beings.
1 posted on 11/20/2008 5:21:26 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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With 60% of Catholics voting for baby-killing Democrats, the bishops have failed at their job of teaching Christian values to their members. The politicians they are belatedly complaining about wouldn’t be in office if Catholic voters didn’t put them there.


2 posted on 11/20/2008 5:23:43 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: jmaroneps37

There will be NO split in the Church. There will be those who ARE Catholic and those who chose NOT to be. Maybe those who do not follow what the Church teaches will finally get out...(and we can can only pray for them).


3 posted on 11/20/2008 5:26:48 AM PST by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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Non-apostate Catholics and Episcopals must split from their apostates ASAP.


4 posted on 11/20/2008 5:28:14 AM PST by polymuser (Bye, bye Miss American Pie.)
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BUMP


5 posted on 11/20/2008 5:28:47 AM PST by syriacus (OBAMA'S CHOICE ----> leave a newborn's fate in the hands of 2 people who wanted to kill her.)
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Maybe those who do not follow what the Church teaches will finally get out...(and we can can only pray for them).

Is church discipline gone?

6 posted on 11/20/2008 5:30:16 AM PST by polymuser (Bye, bye Miss American Pie.)
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This situation could lead to a split of the Roman Catholic Church in America.

Really more of a schism as there is denial out there that the bishops even have the "right" to teach what is true Catholic dogma. I hate to say it, but it's already happened. Many people are just ignoring the shepards when they hear something they don't want to hear.

7 posted on 11/20/2008 5:30:32 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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Perhaps the Catholic Church should clean out the nest of perverts they have, or have had in their priesthood?

Hard to imagine the past behavior of some priests, along with the apparent lack of screening and forceful removal of those who were degenerate, had nothing to do with this current situation.

8 posted on 11/20/2008 5:31:58 AM PST by G.Mason
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To: polymuser

Due to the unthinking acceptance of religious relativism, discipline is no longer exercised in parts of the Church. This IS changing and GOOD, sound teaching and discipline, as well as encouragement on the path to holiness is returning in many other parts of the Church. I pray daily for the administration of our diocese (as do many others) that those who are not anointed and appointed by God will be removed and those who ARE anointed and appointed by HIM will replace them.


9 posted on 11/20/2008 5:39:53 AM PST by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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Those who vote for politicians who support abortion are not true Catholics.


10 posted on 11/20/2008 5:42:49 AM PST by TejanoJim
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I agree with you, but it’s incumbent upon Catholics to stand up for what’s right - not what’s easiest or most popular. As a Catholic, I hope our bishops will educate their parishioners of why abortion is wrong, along with any enforcement measures they deem necessary.

Most abortion rights supporters are informed only to the extent that they think abortion is nothing more than a matter of “choice”. Society has done a good job in shaping that misconception. The case for abortion is fundamental weak, and is easily defeatible with basic logic. It’s just a matter of getting that information out to the Church and the public, in general. That will be the easy part.

The harder part will be their acceptance of it and allowing themselves to change their hearts. I’ve had many discussions with abortion advocates, and all of them usually don’t end well - not because they turn into shouting matches but because they don’t have any answers for the questions I ask them. They get frustrated and therefore angry, but seldom does it actually cause them to reconsider their position. Alarmingly, they often switch the subject to other social issues, of which they think the Democratic agenda adds up to a greater good for all. Like I said, the pro-abortion position is difficult one to defend.

I hope this article is true. I realize we’ll lose some people who want their abortions and Catholic Eucharist too, but I think this is a necessary step for the good of the church.


11 posted on 11/20/2008 5:50:38 AM PST by cartervt2k
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America’s Catholic Bishops are making their voices heard on abortion. Seeing 52% of Catholics vote for Barack Obama, has shocked them into action. They are taking their fight directly to Catholic politicians who support and promote the destruction of innocent babies. The Bishops are starting at the top and sparing no one. They have publicly vowed to confront President elect Obama and his putatively Roman Catholic Vice President elect Joseph Biden on the issue of abortion. They are also warning all Catholics that supporting abortion is a sin.

Gee, if they had done this before the election think it might have had an effect on the outcome?? Just wondering...

12 posted on 11/20/2008 5:51:46 AM PST by CedarDave (This tagline obsolete: John McCain -- "Country First" is getting yourself elected.)
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“Is church discipline gone?”

Where is Tomas de Torquemada (could be the ‘torque’ in ‘garrote’, maybe) when you need him?


13 posted on 11/20/2008 5:52:42 AM PST by Ben Reyes
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To: TejanoJim

As the title says, they are Democrats.


14 posted on 11/20/2008 5:54:08 AM PST by Ben Reyes
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To: jmaroneps37

This situation could lead to a split of the Roman Catholic Church in America.


Been there, done that. It is called Protestantism, much of which is moral jello.


15 posted on 11/20/2008 6:05:51 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Desdemona

"I pick and choose".

Nice cross.

16 posted on 11/20/2008 6:14:02 AM PST by ecomcon
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This situation could lead to a split of the Roman Catholic Church in America. That sounds alarmist, but what else can the eventual outcome be? Some formally Catholic Democrats have left the Church over their love of abortion.

I'm not Catholic, but it seems that history may be repeating itself (you know, Henry VIII and the Church of England). The Catholic Church will survive getting rid of its dead weight.

As a matter of fact I was in Scotland last year on my honeymoon and attended church in Glasgow. Attendance is way down and young people were nowhere in sight. In our tour of the countryside, a lot of former churches have been converted into other uses....one was a souvenir shop, etc.

17 posted on 11/20/2008 6:18:44 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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There is a church called the “American Catholic Church”. My understanding is it it very similar to the “Roman Catholic Church” with one exception being they allow their priests to marry.


18 posted on 11/20/2008 6:23:27 AM PST by jaydubya2
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What difference does it make on what they say when almost all of the staff at the US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) are flaming liberals, one of whom, the Director of the Campaign for Human Development, gave millions to ACORN to help them get out the vote for pro-abortion Democrats.


19 posted on 11/20/2008 6:24:41 AM PST by oldbill
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Don’t hold your breath until you see any the Cardinals or Bishops confront any ot the Catholic Politicians Head On.

The retired Archbishop Donohue of Atlanta was the only Bishop that attacked a Catholic Politician, Congressman John Lewis head on.

Several years ago at the annual Martin Luther King Mass, Upon learning about Congressman John Lewis’s Pro abortion voting record, Archbishop Donohue refused to let Congressman Lewis speak at the Mass despite pressure from the Community. This is what I call Bishops’ with conviction.


20 posted on 11/20/2008 6:30:03 AM PST by ethics
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