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This situation could lead to a split of the Roman Catholic Church in America. That sounds alarmist, but what else can the eventual outcome be? Some formally Catholic Democrats have left the Church over their love of abortion. It's not hard to envision a whole new "American Catholic Church" that would allow all the things Abortion/gay marriage supporting Democrats to fool themselves into thinking they are moral beings.
1 posted on 11/20/2008 5:21:26 AM PST by jmaroneps37
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With 60% of Catholics voting for baby-killing Democrats, the bishops have failed at their job of teaching Christian values to their members. The politicians they are belatedly complaining about wouldn’t be in office if Catholic voters didn’t put them there.


2 posted on 11/20/2008 5:23:43 AM PST by kittymyrib
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There will be NO split in the Church. There will be those who ARE Catholic and those who chose NOT to be. Maybe those who do not follow what the Church teaches will finally get out...(and we can can only pray for them).


3 posted on 11/20/2008 5:26:48 AM PST by SumProVita ("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
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Non-apostate Catholics and Episcopals must split from their apostates ASAP.


4 posted on 11/20/2008 5:28:14 AM PST by polymuser (Bye, bye Miss American Pie.)
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BUMP


5 posted on 11/20/2008 5:28:47 AM PST by syriacus (OBAMA'S CHOICE ----> leave a newborn's fate in the hands of 2 people who wanted to kill her.)
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This situation could lead to a split of the Roman Catholic Church in America.

Really more of a schism as there is denial out there that the bishops even have the "right" to teach what is true Catholic dogma. I hate to say it, but it's already happened. Many people are just ignoring the shepards when they hear something they don't want to hear.

7 posted on 11/20/2008 5:30:32 AM PST by Desdemona (Tolerance of grave evil is NOT a Christian virtue (I choose virtue. Values change too often).)
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Those who vote for politicians who support abortion are not true Catholics.


10 posted on 11/20/2008 5:42:49 AM PST by TejanoJim
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I agree with you, but it’s incumbent upon Catholics to stand up for what’s right - not what’s easiest or most popular. As a Catholic, I hope our bishops will educate their parishioners of why abortion is wrong, along with any enforcement measures they deem necessary.

Most abortion rights supporters are informed only to the extent that they think abortion is nothing more than a matter of “choice”. Society has done a good job in shaping that misconception. The case for abortion is fundamental weak, and is easily defeatible with basic logic. It’s just a matter of getting that information out to the Church and the public, in general. That will be the easy part.

The harder part will be their acceptance of it and allowing themselves to change their hearts. I’ve had many discussions with abortion advocates, and all of them usually don’t end well - not because they turn into shouting matches but because they don’t have any answers for the questions I ask them. They get frustrated and therefore angry, but seldom does it actually cause them to reconsider their position. Alarmingly, they often switch the subject to other social issues, of which they think the Democratic agenda adds up to a greater good for all. Like I said, the pro-abortion position is difficult one to defend.

I hope this article is true. I realize we’ll lose some people who want their abortions and Catholic Eucharist too, but I think this is a necessary step for the good of the church.


11 posted on 11/20/2008 5:50:38 AM PST by cartervt2k
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America’s Catholic Bishops are making their voices heard on abortion. Seeing 52% of Catholics vote for Barack Obama, has shocked them into action. They are taking their fight directly to Catholic politicians who support and promote the destruction of innocent babies. The Bishops are starting at the top and sparing no one. They have publicly vowed to confront President elect Obama and his putatively Roman Catholic Vice President elect Joseph Biden on the issue of abortion. They are also warning all Catholics that supporting abortion is a sin.

Gee, if they had done this before the election think it might have had an effect on the outcome?? Just wondering...

12 posted on 11/20/2008 5:51:46 AM PST by CedarDave (This tagline obsolete: John McCain -- "Country First" is getting yourself elected.)
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This situation could lead to a split of the Roman Catholic Church in America.


Been there, done that. It is called Protestantism, much of which is moral jello.


15 posted on 11/20/2008 6:05:51 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (Here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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This situation could lead to a split of the Roman Catholic Church in America. That sounds alarmist, but what else can the eventual outcome be? Some formally Catholic Democrats have left the Church over their love of abortion.

I'm not Catholic, but it seems that history may be repeating itself (you know, Henry VIII and the Church of England). The Catholic Church will survive getting rid of its dead weight.

As a matter of fact I was in Scotland last year on my honeymoon and attended church in Glasgow. Attendance is way down and young people were nowhere in sight. In our tour of the countryside, a lot of former churches have been converted into other uses....one was a souvenir shop, etc.

17 posted on 11/20/2008 6:18:44 AM PST by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
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There is a church called the “American Catholic Church”. My understanding is it it very similar to the “Roman Catholic Church” with one exception being they allow their priests to marry.


18 posted on 11/20/2008 6:23:27 AM PST by jaydubya2
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What difference does it make on what they say when almost all of the staff at the US Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) are flaming liberals, one of whom, the Director of the Campaign for Human Development, gave millions to ACORN to help them get out the vote for pro-abortion Democrats.


19 posted on 11/20/2008 6:24:41 AM PST by oldbill
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Don’t hold your breath until you see any the Cardinals or Bishops confront any ot the Catholic Politicians Head On.

The retired Archbishop Donohue of Atlanta was the only Bishop that attacked a Catholic Politician, Congressman John Lewis head on.

Several years ago at the annual Martin Luther King Mass, Upon learning about Congressman John Lewis’s Pro abortion voting record, Archbishop Donohue refused to let Congressman Lewis speak at the Mass despite pressure from the Community. This is what I call Bishops’ with conviction.


20 posted on 11/20/2008 6:30:03 AM PST by ethics
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Seeing 52% of Catholics vote for Barack Obama, has shocked them into action.

Their shocked! Where have the Bishops been under a f'n rock?
22 posted on 11/20/2008 6:36:04 AM PST by Bloodclot
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Not a peep out of our priests here in the boonies of PA. They let you know they’re anti-war, but they don’t want to bring up abortion. Might hurt attendance, I guess.


23 posted on 11/20/2008 6:43:05 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Stop feeding Leftist education systems. Don't let your kids go there.)
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You are either a Catholic and follow the rules of the Church or you are not a Catholic.
“Bout time the “Bishops” got some courage.


24 posted on 11/20/2008 6:50:17 AM PST by chatham
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“It’s not hard to envision a whole new “American Catholic Church” that would allow all the things Abortion/gay marriage supporting Democrats to fool themselves into thinking they are moral beings.”

I can think of certain places where this has already happened. They just haven’t made it official yet.

Maybe in a few years certain churches will have to change their front door signs to “American Catholic Church”


28 posted on 11/20/2008 6:59:33 AM PST by Scotswife
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Unless the Democrats start running Catholics who defend life, eventually the Bishops will start instructing Catholics not to support them at the risk of committing a mortal sin.

Problems don't get solved by ignoring reality. The Bishops did come out in very strong language and told their parishioners that voting for a pro abortion candidate would be morally grave. 52% of those in their church didn't care what they said.

29 posted on 11/20/2008 7:00:56 AM PST by wmfights (Elections have Consequences!)
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No problem. The voting Catholics did not listen to their Bishops when they voted massively for the Marxists. My wife was born into a Catholic family. She went to mass and all throughout her early life. When her priest in Seattle got busted for child porn and messing with boys, she quit going. She was disgusted with the behavior of the priests in her church. She started going to church with me after we were married. She accepted Christ as her Savior and was baptized into the Southern Baptist faith and we attend our nice little Baptist Church here in Alabama, where we have a wonderful group of very old to young people in a church that was founded in 1852 on the location it stands today. The old wooden church building is long gone and replaced with a nice brick church. We have a great Pastor, that I met when we first moved into our new house. He was from my old high school and had finished the year after I did. He is a fantastic guy and preaches a great sermon. He does not scream, rant, jump around like some I have seen. He is very, very good. We go to both services on Sunday, and on Wednesday evenings we have a Bible study hour which he leads.
30 posted on 11/20/2008 7:01:27 AM PST by RetiredArmy (NOTE TO REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS: PLAY THE CONSERVATIVE CARD!!!)
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A priest at one of our local Catholic churchs wrote in his blog that if any of his parishioners voted for Obama they should do penitence prior to receiving communion due to Obama’s stand on abortion. The state bishop (no district bishop here right now) did not stand behind him!! This is why the church is so ignored. They have no back bone and due to their own internal issues, they are afraid to call anyone out!
Of course, other churches are no better...so many are more worried about what goes in the collection plate and not offending anyone they have lost souls!


32 posted on 11/20/2008 7:45:36 AM PST by 4everontheRight ("Boy, those French: They have a different word for everything! "- Steve Martin)
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