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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


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To: MHGinTN

I’m sorry, I don’t think it’s a forgery. I appreciate that you do, it is just a difference of opinion.


1,081 posted on 11/15/2008 7:36:12 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom
I am considering both sides and do not find that ignore the proof that supports a conspiracy to coverup Obama’s foreign birth.

Fixed

1,082 posted on 11/15/2008 7:36:27 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: GCC Catholic

I just posted this on another thread, regarding the “good” photographs of the short COLB, not the initial poor scans:

If I had access to about a dozen blank short COLB forms and a raised seal stamper, I could probably whip up just about the same things as FactCheck has photographed. Just need some photoshop and a little time; the content can be whatever random crap suits you.

At least until the original long-form copy comes out; then it’s game over, because the lie is exposed.

THAT is why it’s so important to see the real form, and why the FactCheck short COLBs are useless, even if they are legitimately from the State of Hawaii.


Officials of the state of Hawaii have confirmed that the Obama Certification of Live Birth is genuine and that the original is on file.
None of us know if appropriate federal government officials have already seen the original document. I tend to think so since both the CIA and the NSA already have been briefing Obama at the highest top secret security level. And that’s prior to the Electoral College vote. I doubt that would happen without confirmation.


1,083 posted on 11/15/2008 7:37:50 PM PST by jamese777
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To: pa mom
To show their friends and neighbors that their daughter got married and their grandchild is not illegitimate.
1,084 posted on 11/15/2008 7:38:24 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: itsahoot

Well, we do need the numbers to win in 2012, don’t you think? Can we really pull it off with just the base? It would be nice, but I don’t know if it is practical.


1,085 posted on 11/15/2008 7:38:30 PM PST by pa mom
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To: hoosiermama

Good one! Spoken like a mama!


1,086 posted on 11/15/2008 7:39:01 PM PST by pa mom
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To: cake_crumb

>>Of Obama is found to be unqualified as president, a new election will have to be held...after SCOTUS rules.

No, the house of representatives would decide as per the constitution. Could be an interesting turn of events...making Hillary president instead of the one.


1,087 posted on 11/15/2008 7:39:09 PM PST by o2bfree
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To: itsahoot

Thanks!


1,088 posted on 11/15/2008 7:39:20 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom

“Actually, I am reading as much as I can and weighing the evidence. I am considering both sides and do not find that the proof supports a conspiracy to coverup Obama’s foreign birth. How many supporters of this belief will give consideration to the opposing point of view?”

Good grief, woman, I’ve been reading this thread and biting my tongue until I get caught up on this thread, but you’re really something and I don’t want my tongue to bleed.

You want US, WE AMERICANS, to have to PROVE that Obama is eligible. Lady, you have it all backwards. This man wants to be President and he is the one that should have immediately released his birth records, medical records and every other record (like his college days).

You’re not weighing all the evidence, IMO. The only evidence we need is for Obama to release his birth certificate and every other record he has hidden.

Why do YOU think Obama is fighting so hard to NOT release his birth certificate?


1,089 posted on 11/15/2008 7:39:36 PM PST by CaribouCrossing
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To: o2bfree

“...making Hillary president instead of the one.”

Rahm and Greg will be waiting with open arms....


1,090 posted on 11/15/2008 7:40:16 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: pa mom
If he was born in Hawaii, then he’s a citizen, his birth father is immaterial.

You are running in circles, your answer to all that you can find from your "neighbor' in PA, see post 803!!!

I am curious to know what generation you represent???

1,091 posted on 11/15/2008 7:40:42 PM PST by danamco
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To: CaribouCrossing

I think he has released it. My best guess would be that either they think what he released is sufficient or feel that whatever he releases will be viewed as a forgery.


1,092 posted on 11/15/2008 7:41:21 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom
I simply meant that I find it hard to believe that such a lie could have been continued for 47 years without one person making a mistake or selling out for money, fame, etc.

Do you know how many people believe the Apostles of Christ were lying conspirators? No one ever came forth for money. Almost 2000 years and counting.

How many years and people do you think were involved in the 911 attack, yet all we know is post facto.

1,093 posted on 11/15/2008 7:41:26 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: solfour
No PROOOBlem...


1,094 posted on 11/15/2008 7:41:31 PM PST by bannie
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To: pa mom
I appreciate your input. I guess you have to go on the assumption that because it is possible to forge the document, it is forged. Again, I understand those that believe that, more power to you as they say. I don’t think it’s true—one reason is that someone would have squealed by now.

Oh, I've done a lot of squealing. It's not a forged document, but a forged document image, because there never was a birth certificate document for Obama to begin with.

Everything claimed to be a copy of Obama's real birth certificate is bogus. Scan? Bogus! Photos? Bogus. If Obama was really born in Hawaii, we would have heard the entire State Government of Hawaii yelling it from the roof tops.

1,095 posted on 11/15/2008 7:41:52 PM PST by Polarik
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To: CaribouCrossing

“You want US, WE AMERICANS, to have to PROVE that Obama is eligible. Lady, you have it all backwards. This man wants to be President and he is the one that should have immediately released his birth records, medical records and every other record (like his college days).”

RIGHT ON!


1,096 posted on 11/15/2008 7:41:57 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: CaribouCrossing

It can’t be his sense of privacy, since he was happy to get the courts to unseal Ryan’s private divorce records.


1,097 posted on 11/15/2008 7:43:54 PM PST by txhurl (somebody just bought 12 Carrier Battle Groups for 600 million dollars)
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To: pa mom
I tried my best with it (at least as much as I can from college)... I'm holding on to my t-shirt and bumper sticker, hoping he gives it another go in two years.

Thank you so much for sending some support his way.

1,098 posted on 11/15/2008 7:44:32 PM PST by GCC Catholic (0bama, what are you hiding? Just show us the birth certificate...)
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To: jamese777

Here’s the problem, in a nut shell. You cited, “Officials of the state of Hawaii have confirmed that the Obama Certification of Live Birth is genuine and that the original is on file.” The COLB can be genuine from HI and the person certifying it can be honest, yet the facts on the original could state clearly that the child was born in Kenya and an HI COLB was issued on request, in 1961. THAT is why so many of US demand this lying bastard produce proof he is eligible by Constitutional standards to be sworn ina s president.


1,099 posted on 11/15/2008 7:44:53 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: danamco

My point was that there were two arguments which did indeed run round and round. Folks were saying Obama Sr. was not his daddy and that he was not born in the US but in Kenya. I pointed out that they contradicted each other. If he was born in Kenya, dad was O sr. and therefore parentage not in question. If dad was NOT O sr., then why think he was born in Kenya? Surely this guy was not such a catch as to lie about him as a father.

I hope I was not making the argument more round about, I wanted to point out that it was round about to begin with!


1,100 posted on 11/15/2008 7:44:57 PM PST by pa mom
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