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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


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To: Boardwalk

I am asking you politely to lay off the personal attacks.


1,061 posted on 11/15/2008 7:29:20 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom

Ah, so now your subtle little insults to people on this thread are designed to make them ‘stronger debaters’? Riiiiight


1,062 posted on 11/15/2008 7:29:43 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: txflake

Interesting point. Hmmm. Like that one. Makes sense.


1,063 posted on 11/15/2008 7:30:06 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom; Calpernia

Sigh. If you ask Calpernia or do some research of your own by reading other threads, which you seem reluctant to do, you will see that the font in the photocopy of the birth announcement appears to be different from the surrounding columns. IOW it may not be a real birth announcement; also interesting that the address given has no known connection with any of the principles.

Other people may likely know more about this but you are starting to sound like a broken record, instead of repeating this statement endlessly about why would the grandparents falsify the birth announcement, why not read more about it and become informed?

(Sorry for pinging you again, Cal, but I had to say your name here!)


1,064 posted on 11/15/2008 7:30:21 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: pa mom
Thank you. We're obviously looking at this from two different angles, because from my perspective, I can't see how one can't ask the question about what's on the original. I can respect that not everyone thinks it's that obvious.

I caught what you said about your district. I feel some of the same pain in dealing with your local voters -- I live in Murtha's district.

Take care, and enjoy the rest of your evening.

1,065 posted on 11/15/2008 7:30:56 PM PST by GCC Catholic (Sour grapes make terrible whine.)
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To: MHGinTN

Please point out a personal insult that I have made. I make every effort to keep the debate civil.


1,066 posted on 11/15/2008 7:31:01 PM PST by pa mom
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To: thesetruths
We have no proof of anything. Someone might, but the public does not. It is a known fact that very little is known.

Journalism died in 2008. Evidence? This exchange last Thursday between Tom Brokaw and Charlie Rose on PBS (thanks to Rush): ROSE: I don’t know what Barack Obama’s worldview is. BROKAW: No, I don’t, either. ROSE: I don’t know how he really sees where China is. BROKAW: We don’t know a lot about Barack Obama and the universe of his thinking about foreign policy. ROSE: I don’t really know. And do we know anything about the people who are advising him? BROKAW: Yeah, it’s an interesting question. ROSE: He is principally known through his autobiography and through very aspirational (sic) speeches. BROKAW: Two of them! I don’t know what books he’s read. ROSE: What do we know about the heroes of Barack Obama? BROKAW: There’s a lot about him we don’t know. The don’t know much about him? After all this time? There are tapes of him from 1995, 2001, etc. records from when he was an organizer and lawyer for ACORN, and when he worked with Ayers. There is his associations with Wright, Ayers, et. all and NO INVESTIGATION OF IT. This exchange is perhaps one of the most ludicrous, preposterous conversations I have ever read. Brokaw moderated probably the WORST debate in modern history. What questions were asked in that debate? NOTHING OF VALUE. Their job is to find out who the candidates are for us with objectivity and professionalism. It makes you want to hurl.
1,067 posted on 11/15/2008 7:31:26 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: All; ETL; Beckwith; Fred Nerks; holdonnow

Meanwhile, grandma had a memorial, they sent a note and flowers. Obama plans to be there for a family one in December. (shakes head)

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081115/NEWS01/811150360/1001/localnewsfront


1,068 posted on 11/15/2008 7:31:35 PM PST by AliVeritas (Pray, Pray, Pray)
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To: Boardwalk

That would be someone who’s just playing the role of opposition, not real opposition.


1,069 posted on 11/15/2008 7:32:25 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: pa mom

The photos at FactCheck zero in on the state seal in the purported C.O.L.B. but those photos do NOT match the true state seal for HI. The state seal of Hawaii has clearly shown detail on the figure in the middle of the seal while the photos of the seal on the C.O.L.B. which FactCheck displays are not detail! They are more like a poor imitation!


1,070 posted on 11/15/2008 7:32:31 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: little jeremiah; jamese777

Yes James, link to backup your claim please.


1,071 posted on 11/15/2008 7:32:47 PM PST by tomkat ( . . preparing to shrug . .)
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To: GCC Catholic

Oh, I sent money to Russell! I was so disappointed. It might have been wrong, but I wanted that seat out of spite!


1,072 posted on 11/15/2008 7:32:57 PM PST by pa mom
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To: pa mom

You keep repeating the same specious question. When will you admit that it is a recent fraudulent birth announcement poorly designed to appear to be original to 1961? This is most telling of your reason to continue this defense of the fraudulent little Obamasquirrel.


1,073 posted on 11/15/2008 7:33:07 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Cheerio

Perfect. That is exactly what I was thinking of!


1,074 posted on 11/15/2008 7:33:12 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: solfour
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

Wow! What penetrating insight on the part of World Net Daily!

1,075 posted on 11/15/2008 7:33:13 PM PST by Polarik
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To: pa mom
I pointed out that we need moderates to provide the numbers to overthrow Obama in 4 years.

We need moderates like we need a hole in the head.

1,076 posted on 11/15/2008 7:34:03 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
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To: thesetruths

Lawyers might be interested in this analysis. Written by Harvard Alum who has had several cases in front of SCOTUS.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm


1,077 posted on 11/15/2008 7:34:04 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bring us together already!)
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To: little jeremiah

I did read the other threads—I’ve been looking around the internet and I had seen Berg’s stuff earlier this fall. Someone at the McCain headquarters was showing that around.

I just don’t agree, I’m sorry. It’s not personal, really.

I do think we are together on hoping he will not be able to do what we fear he wants to in the next four years!


1,078 posted on 11/15/2008 7:35:05 PM PST by pa mom
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To: itsahoot

Overthrow? Interesting word choice....


1,079 posted on 11/15/2008 7:35:06 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: Aurorales
He can’t use a number which already exists for someone else and if his number is way out of line with the other babies born at that time, well many Freepers and/or “fraud experts” will catch it.

Father's race in 1961, termed..... "AFRICAN" vs. you know.......com on, plueeze???

1,080 posted on 11/15/2008 7:35:32 PM PST by danamco
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