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Obama to use executive orders for immediate impact
Associated Press ^ | 11/09/2008 | STEPHEN OHLEMACHER

Posted on 11/09/2008 3:46:11 PM PST by EBH

"There's a lot that the president can do using his executive authority without waiting for congressional action, and I think we'll see the president do that," Podesta said. "I think that he feels like he has a real mandate for change. We need to get off the course that the Bush administration has set."

Executive orders "have the power of law and they can cover just about anything," Tobias said in a telephone interview.

On drilling, the federal Bureau of Land Management is opening about 360,000 acres of public land in Utah to oil and gas drilling. Bush administration officials argue that the drilling will not harm sensitive areas; environmentalists oppose it.

"They want to have oil and gas drilling in some of the most sensitive, fragile lands in Utah," Podesta said. "I think that's a mistake."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho2008; blm; bo; dictator; drilling; energy; eo; fascism; lp; pbuh; podesta
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To: slnk_rules

Ok, didn’t see where he’ll take away your guns or suspend all oil drilling.

You pretty much know Obama’s ideology and what he wants to do ...

And all by Executive Order .... Bush didn’t take away any freedom’s by EO’s .... Obama will .....


121 posted on 11/09/2008 5:04:54 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: slnk_rules

... ps, forgot that Obama wants to destroy the coal industry too ... an EO to suspend all coal mining?? ....


122 posted on 11/09/2008 5:06:14 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: fella; saganite
And it will take 60 votes in the Senate to override.

No. That's to override a veto of congressional originated legislation.

XO's are merely Presidential exercise of discretion Congress has already granted some agency in the Executive branch.

A simple amendment to a spending bill in the house can eviscerate any executive order.

Too bad FReepers are ever looking for a way to get rid of our best parliamentarians like McConnell in the Senate who can maneuver as the framers intended.

However, if Obama gets into a catfight with Pelosi or Reid (likely at some point) then you might very well see the Dem congress override an XO without (R) help.

123 posted on 11/09/2008 5:11:08 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: slnk_rules
It is to restrict the power of the federal government to “do good” by forcing it to do as little as possible, or if you get real lucky, forcing it to act within the bounds of the constitution.

Well said.

124 posted on 11/09/2008 5:13:44 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: SkyDancer

Actually, Bush DID remove our right to be secure in our papers, possessions and homes, violation of the 4th. He also unconstutionally gives Bush to unilaterally, without court review, to seize the property of anyone who poses a “significant risk” of proscribed the freedom of speech to protest, if it would “committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people.”

I am NO fan of Obama, and voted against him. However, I will say again, you can’t be for liberty when “their guys” are pulling the strings and just say “oh, well.... I don’t care about the constitution when it is OUR GUY up there in power.” Checks and balances are there for a reason. People who pitched a fit about this were mocked as “leftists” and “anti war” and worse.

Now you are about to see WHY we were upset about it.


125 posted on 11/09/2008 5:14:51 PM PST by slnk_rules (http://mises.org)
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To: Domandred

“AWB II”

Recall that George Bush Sr. banned AK-47 imports in 1989 after a mass shooting.

That Klintoon broadened that ban in 1994. Both EOs are still in effect. They have been circumvented both by domestic manufacturers of AK frames/parts and the sunset of AWB I.

But the Commerce Department can ban any imported product it wants. Or whatever the POTUS wants banned.

But IIRC, banning domestic production of autoloading rifles will require legislative action. And not all Democrats are blue-staters immune to challenge.


126 posted on 11/09/2008 5:15:41 PM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My cartridges are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: cruise_missile

OK ... I willing to hit him on as many fronts as possible. however I do NOT want to focus on one issue at the expense of others that I feel are far more important


127 posted on 11/09/2008 5:16:32 PM PST by clamper1797 (BHO ... the 'H" stands for hubris)
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To: slnk_rules

OK - I go along with some of those assumptions ... but there wasn’t that mass collections of paper (computers) ... true there were some bizarre instances where some eight year old kid was branded a terrorist because he drew some picture or an infant who couldn’t fly because somehow its name got on a no-fly list ... but in whole, nothing really happened to deny Americans their Constitutional rights ...

I understand too what you’re saying about Obama as well.

What is troubling to me is his agenda ...we know where he’s going ...

/r/jane


128 posted on 11/09/2008 5:20:19 PM PST by SkyDancer ("I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice")
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To: humblegunner
in UTAH?????? Lord in Heaven, what is wrong with this country? Are they treating the drinking water with psychotropics or what? Half the nation has gone insane.
129 posted on 11/09/2008 5:20:26 PM PST by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: Amelia

Exactly! So did I. All the Bushbots who cheered on the Patriot Act and warrantless wiretapping will have no place to hide when Obama uses the same statutes and powers against pro-life groups, second amendment advocates and any conservative opposition to his rule. Checks and balances need to be there for a reason.


130 posted on 11/09/2008 5:20:39 PM PST by Saberwielder
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To: clamper1797

Remember what Obama said about McCain. A president has to focus on a lot of problems. Well we can too.

My point is simple if you are given an opportunity to knock this guy off his game. You do it! We have American support for this issue. We would be foolish not to. We have to make him weak in the American public eye’s so when the big issues (like yours) come he will be weakened. - Sun Tzu?


131 posted on 11/09/2008 5:25:42 PM PST by cruise_missile (''Edward - Jones:High commissions for lousy investment advice! Making cents out of $.)
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To: Poison Pill

“The American people have no idea what they have done.”

But they are about to find out.


132 posted on 11/09/2008 5:26:18 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: EBH
Oh man, he is already going to start with the power trip.

Who does he think he is...President Bush!??!

133 posted on 11/09/2008 5:26:47 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Texas_shutterbug
Well, President Bush made more use of executive orders than any president I can remember.

Nice attempt at revisionist history comrade. Actually Mr Clinton signed almost 100 more EO's than Mr Bush. Your memory needs fixin'

134 posted on 11/09/2008 5:27:25 PM PST by 7mmMag@LeftCoast (The DNC and Rino's: they put the CON into congress everyday.)
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To: DBCJR
By decree of the king!

Ain't the Imperial Presidency just grand? Oh, how pleased the Bushbots must be!

135 posted on 11/09/2008 5:27:25 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: EBH

If only Bush had half the cajones when he took office...


136 posted on 11/09/2008 5:28:00 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: EBH

.....”domestic drilling for oil and natural gas.”...

Good.


137 posted on 11/09/2008 5:28:09 PM PST by Kimberly GG (Shoulda, Woulda, Coulda been HUNTER.)
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To: Saberwielder; Amelia; jan in Colorado
You weren't alone in that.

Why was that all so difficult for the Bushbots to understand?!?

138 posted on 11/09/2008 5:28:55 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: RightWhale

Democrat Mandate - Winning by one vote.

Republican Mandate - Winning 100% of the vote.

When you own the Media, you own the information.
When you own the information, you own the vote.


139 posted on 11/09/2008 5:30:34 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner.)
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To: slnk_rules

As you suggest, Bush is a lot of the reason for the accension of Obama.

Of course, the One Party Press gave Obama about 25 pct points via billions worth of pro-Obama p.r. pieces.

I voted for the McCain/Palin ticket. Wasn’t voting for McCain, but rather for Palin. McCain has made a career for years out of pissing on the Repub base and so many conservatives had little enthusiam for him.

And imo, few Obama supporters know much about him. At work, a couple affluent, well-educated coworkers and strong Obama supporters, had no idea what Obama’s voting record was.

Adolf Hitler could have run vs. Bush and they still would have voted for him. After all, Adolf was a skilled public speaker, campaigned for change and was not Bush.


140 posted on 11/09/2008 5:32:00 PM PST by OldArmy52 (Change a Socialist can believe in: Vote Obama. Your dog and dead Gramma did.)
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