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Dollars lining up for 'civilian national security force'?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 06, 2008

Posted on 11/07/2008 4:32:12 AM PST by Perseverando

Report cites Frank's proposal to cut military 25%

President-elect Barack Obama raised questions during an election campaign stop in Colorado Springs when he asserted the U.S. needs a "civilian national security force" that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force, but few of those questions have been answered.

But now one report is proposing a possible solution for part of the equation: From where would the money for such an organization come? Democrats in Congress now are floating the idea of cutting U.S. military spending by 25 percent, or $150 billion a year, and according to a report from blogger Jay Tea, that could be used for the new "security force."

The idea to cut the military, proposed by Rep. Barney Frank, already is being opposed by Republicans.

Frank, D-Mass., recently told a newspaper the Pentagon will have to start choosing the cuts from its weapons programs because he wants to slash more than $150 billion from the estimated $607 billion in defense spending already approved for fiscal year 2008.

Sen. Roscoe Bartlett, R-Md., argued America now is fighting terror worldwide, including active wars in Afghanistan and Iran, and that has stretched the capabilities of the military already.

He warned cutting funding in such a drastic way would be irresponsible.

"You know if we don't make the right decisions about the military nothing else will matter will it? Because if we don't have a free country then you know what do these other programs matter at all? That's the number one responsibility," he said.

The blogger, however, saw the plan linked this way: "Representative Barney Frank, apparently not content with his role in wreaking havoc on the nation's financial system, has announced that he will push for a 25 percent cut in

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To: Glenn

Me, student of history and You, a cynic...trust me, i don’t think we’re that far apart; a good cynic is a strong student of history and i too have felt a strong rush of cynicism of late!


101 posted on 11/07/2008 6:09:55 AM PST by mdmathis6 (I'm Mike the RN!( I often do plumbing of a different sort))
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To: Netizen; All
We should never forget just as the Clintons were experts at triangulation— being on every side of every issue— the OCF(Obama Crime Family) are experts at astroturfing. Which is the use of paid shills to create the allusion of a popular movement. They won an election using this concept. I don't expect them to stop now.
102 posted on 11/07/2008 6:10:00 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: antioscar

Re: Expand Corporation for National and Community Service: Obama and Biden will expand AmeriCorps from 75,000 slots today to 250,000 and they will focus this expansion on addressing the great challenges facing the nation.

Americorps - 250,000!!!!!!!!! Well, there they are. That looks like the group that he’s planning on using for his Hitler...., I mean Obama Youth.

Thanks for the info. We better start getting used to hearing about Americorps or work on nipping this little monster in the bud.


103 posted on 11/07/2008 6:11:04 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Perseverando
We should also remember that incremental ism is how they accomplish almost every goal that leads to Socialism.

Anyone remember the environmental movement? Anyone care to guess how that has morphed into a strategic soldier in the war on capitalism?

104 posted on 11/07/2008 6:12:34 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Heartland Mom

Thank you, exactly my point in posting the thought is to cause discussion.

My first logical thought on the matter is that he wants a paramilitary he has guaranteed control over as his intended changes for our Nation would leave him with sleepless nights without that control. So what that he is now to become the CIC of the Military. It’s an establishment of known and true Americans.

The posted thought is another derivative of that line of thinking.


105 posted on 11/07/2008 6:15:46 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, Call 'em what you will, they ALL have Fairies livin' in their Trees.)
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To: OpusatFR

Fraulein, let me see your papers please.


106 posted on 11/07/2008 6:18:54 AM PST by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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To: Perseverando
I've always liked the idea of citizen militia. Get's us former military types off our asses and back into some kind of shape.

However, the Constitutional way to do this is via State/governor control... not as a Private Army of Brownshirts for the Imperial President.

Obambia tries this, it could seriously spark some "active resistance".

107 posted on 11/07/2008 6:19:24 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: antioscar

I didn’t see a WELFARE CORPS for those expecting welfare checks. There better be one, or there will be lawsuits.


108 posted on 11/07/2008 6:24:24 AM PST by Netizen (PRAY AND WORK HARD - MILLIONS OF MOOCHERS DEPEND ON YOU.)
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To: Perseverando

My son just got accepted to Michigan State University. They want him in their Honors College and offered him a Professorial Assistantship. When he goes next spring, he’ll probably be in the first indoctrination bunch. :(


109 posted on 11/07/2008 6:26:41 AM PST by Netizen (PRAY AND WORK HARD - MILLIONS OF MOOCHERS DEPEND ON YOU.)
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To: G.Mason

Some studies do show it helps the pointeyer bullets slide throug Kevlar, but then a 30.06 ought to do just fine straight out of the box. I wasn’t being technical, AP is pretty much out of the reach of law abiding citizens. Now spent uranium would be really good but I don’t think my roof would support a CIWS.


110 posted on 11/07/2008 6:27:52 AM PST by dblshot
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To: Dead Corpse
Sorry too late. The time for active resistance was the past 6 months while the dems/dbm elected a candidate with too many flaws to list,first being not being born here or even eligible to run!!!
111 posted on 11/07/2008 6:31:18 AM PST by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Netizen; All
excerpts from change.gov:

Create a Green Jobs Corps: Obama and Biden will create a program to directly engage disadvantaged youth in energy efficiency opportunities to strengthen their communities, while also providing them with practical skills in this important high-growth career field.

Obama and Biden will also create a prison-to-work incentive program and reduce barriers to employment.

Raise the Minimum Wage to $9.50 an Hour by 2011

112 posted on 11/07/2008 6:35:44 AM PST by antioscar
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To: Perseverando

I keep telling you people that we are in a war now, we are in a war for our country. We can’t let these socialists ruin the great republic that God Alighty himself established. We to fight these people, and win, or else our nation falls into ruin.


113 posted on 11/07/2008 6:36:50 AM PST by pctech
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To: Perseverando

We need to start heavy on this KGB like organization. start talking it up to everyone you talk to. We need the drumbeat back on our side.


114 posted on 11/07/2008 6:37:35 AM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: antioscar

He’s better target those parents collecting those welfare checks. Same thing for able bodied people that are collecting ssi when they shouldn’t be.


115 posted on 11/07/2008 6:42:55 AM PST by Netizen (PRAY AND WORK HARD - MILLIONS OF MOOCHERS DEPEND ON YOU.)
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To: Netizen
I'm very suspicious of this 'new' group

The "New Black Panthers" writ large, and equipped with M-16s and Abrams (Oh, wait - those idiots couldn't START an Abrams)

Well, a million angry black men with M-16s and government sanction, that'll be sufficient.

116 posted on 11/07/2008 6:46:51 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: Perseverando
he asserted the U.S. needs a "civilian national security force"

THIS is why there's a 2nd amendment.

117 posted on 11/07/2008 6:48:26 AM PST by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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To: Glenn
Look...Obama stated clearly what he plans, here is a video of him doing so. WND is just reporting what he said.

Each state already has a civilian defense force, its called the National Guard. Each city already has a police department. What does he need this group for? The creation of such a "Corps" is straight out of the CPUSA agenda. Obama hasn’t hid his fondness for Marxism, in fact he said in his memoir that he “was quite attracted to it".

Germany under Hitler during hard economic times set up a volunteer neighborhood/community "Civilian National Security Forces" to protect the Homeland. Once established, the civilian force became a political enforcement arm of the Nazi Government and was subsequently run by the Gestapo.

His choice as Chief of Staff is very disturbing. It has been said that Rahm Emanuel was so angry at the Clinton’s enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting “Dead! … Dead! … Dead!” and plunging the knife into the table after every name. He once sent a rotting fish to a pollster who had angered him. In his book, "The Plan: Big Ideas for America", published in 2006, Emanuel sketches out his ideas on how to “fight against the spread of evil and totalitarianism.” and suggests “we must protect our homeland and civil liberties by creating a new domestic counter-terrorism force.” Rahm Emanuel is also an enthusiastic supporter of the United States Public Service Academy Act, a lobbying group founded in 2006 in order to promote the foundation of an American public service academy modeled on the military academies - a youth corps whose students would be trained in “civilian internship in the armed forces”. Sound reminiscent of Hitler Youth?

Sure, maybe some of WND's hype should be seen as such, but given the Communist background of Obama, we should never be complacent. As always, if we ignore the lessons of the past, we are doomed to repeat those same mistakes.

118 posted on 11/07/2008 6:58:12 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: TheCipher
"Day 3 of the resistance. Wolverines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JOIN THE RESISTANCE"

Anyone thought about forming a "Wolverines" resistance ping list?

119 posted on 11/07/2008 7:01:10 AM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Democrats: Seeking an easy life at someone else's expense for 150 years")
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To: rightwingextremist1776; All

Call it what it is: the O-stapo.


120 posted on 11/07/2008 7:04:28 AM PST by Tenniel2 ("Obama's the guy in the office who has never done anything but move on to the next job" -- Anon., TH)
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