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Hawaiian Officials Admit Withholding Obama's Original Birth Certificate
Israel Insider ^ | November 1, 2008

Posted on 11/01/2008 6:36:12 AM PDT by Fennie

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To: pnut22
"...they lie about things that would be better just to admit to."

When it comes to liberals, if the truth would HELP them, they'd use it.
61 posted on 11/01/2008 7:10:20 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberalism is communism, by the drink. O'Rourke)
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To: wiseprince

“How can we get this to the Drive Bys.”

No need. The internet is able to spread word quickly. Why do you think that so many people are suspicious of his claim to be a Christian? FoxNews and talk radio have hardly touched it — just the internet.


62 posted on 11/01/2008 7:11:55 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (We can win the economic meltdown debate: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2115485/posts)
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To: Fennie
Amazing, every personal record on Joe The Plumber get released against his will (ans against the law) but we, The American People, can't see a Presidential contenders birth certificate?

The irony is too rich (and dangerous)

63 posted on 11/01/2008 7:12:03 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: Blue Turtle
"This just keeps growing...what could this possibly mean? "

Perception is reality....
64 posted on 11/01/2008 7:12:42 AM PDT by FrankR (Liberalism is communism, by the drink. O'Rourke)
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To: FrankR

Problem is they wouldn’t know truth if it bit them in the a$$.


65 posted on 11/01/2008 7:12:51 AM PDT by pnut22
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To: ljswisc

Another interesting question is, in reverse, if the birth certificate is amended or annotated if the person is adopted by a foreigner in a foreign country, as would have been the case in Obama’s adoption by Soetero, his mother’s Indonesian Muslim husband of the moment.


66 posted on 11/01/2008 7:13:03 AM PDT by livius
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To: lionheart 247365
You didn't catch the double entendre in that last line, did you?

Vote for the Hottie
Not for the Haughty

Cheers!

67 posted on 11/01/2008 7:13:59 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Fennie
Martin has a court date in Hawaii on his demand to release the original birth certificate in the public interest scheduled for November 18, 2008. He has scheduled a press conference for today (Saturday, November 1).

Well, if on Nov 18 any demand does produce the requested "original" and that answers the question about Obama's citizenship, and that he was not actually "born" in Hawaii, what then if he has become POTUS? Another impeachment process for the Democrats? If Obama not only frauded the American public, and that also included all the thousands who supported and contributed to his most expensive campaign, I doubt anyone will be happy with the Zer0. What about his status as Senator? Would that be affected also? We all knew that the trip to visit Grandma was a dog and pony show that Obama hoped to get him empathy from the electorate, while the real reason was to try to affect the release/viewing of what is hidden.

Of course we all hope McCain is elected POTUS, and Obama's Birth Certificate has no effect on the Presidency. But the questions will linger and the investigation will not end whether or not Obama is in the White House.

Silly man, he could have avoided all of this...the time, the money, the confusion, the arguments had he only been forthright from the beginning. And if the real certificate does prove he is a citizen, many will still wonder why the big deal in keeping it hidden, and why play these games - to what avail, Obama, has all this been?

If the certificate reveals something personal, some "family secret" about Obama's parentage, who would have really cared about that? The issue is/was his citizenship, not who Papa was/is. Why has the family also been so closed-mouthed? Have they been ashamed of something? Or...just maybe, even Obama did not know who his real father was until later in adulthood or something? Was it Frank M. Davis - the man to whom he became so close when living Hawaii, who was a long time friend of his Grandfather? The man who is an admitted member of the Communist Party, and who mentored Obama for years? A man Obama refers to often in his own book as "Frank?"

Whatever the secret is - if it has something to do with what Obama always believed - that Obama, Sr.was his father, and it turns out that is not true, is that the issue? Maybe finding out that Obama Sr. was not Daddy, and that his Mother lied to him years ago, along with his Grandparents who kept the lie, is why he has such racist feelings against white people?

Those are rumors/suspicions being raised. I don't cotton to them,yet, but everyone agrees - there is something mighty smelly about this hidden, original, certified Birth Certificate. And, regardless of who fathered Barack, if that is the secret, the question still remains - where was he actually born?

68 posted on 11/01/2008 7:14:01 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: Fennie

The child is dead. He breathed just for a moment. Then he breathed no more. The child is dead. Dead. The child is dead. I'm afraid it will kill her. My God, she wanted a baby so much. For such a long time. What can I tell her? What will I say? You could adopt a child. She wanted her own. If I may suggest, it even resembles... Your wife need never know. It would be a blessing to her and to the child. Are there no relatives? None. The mother died, as your own child, in the same moment. You said it could be ours, but... On this night, Mr Thorn, God has given you a son. Here's your boy.


69 posted on 11/01/2008 7:15:33 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: lionheart 247365
The Mean Streak Media would have a field day

Let it be

PS, I hate that song.

70 posted on 11/01/2008 7:15:53 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Election '08, the year McCain defined the word "dilemma")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

There were a lot of spam emails (during the primary) that helped with that message. The same will need to be done quickly if the word is to get out on the Birth Certificate scandal. It would be a lot easier if we could get the campaign to mention it. Then we can force the hand of the Drive Bys


71 posted on 11/01/2008 7:16:05 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: anniegetyourgun

Father unknown is not embarrassing. Many kids have taht because it helps with avoiding custody issues if the father didn’t want the child. It negates his abilty to come back later.

I either think its only a registration like mine is, replacing my internation birth certificate or it shows him to be a muslim. Which i think is really the point.

People are stupid enough to not understand Muslim is not a religion you just changed and he has not been baptized christian that’s my opinion.


72 posted on 11/01/2008 7:16:06 AM PDT by genxer (I'm voting for Sarah, oh and that guys she's running with)
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To: Fortunata

Hasn’t he already hinted he’ll try again in 4 years if he does?
________________________________________

But not as a current US Senator...

I bet Hillary will work to bury him in his re-election attempt in 2010...

She and the PUMAs will pound him into the ground so good he’ll be running in China..

Oh, Bah Bye, Obama...


73 posted on 11/01/2008 7:16:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: cripplecreek

This has gotten totally nuts. Thought this was just a non-issue but it just doesn’t go away. These actions point to an issue of some sort.

And that phone trip to Hawaii looks more transparent to shut down any information on the birth certificate.

Maybe he is a citizen but there’s something in there.


74 posted on 11/01/2008 7:17:09 AM PDT by romanesq
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To: blaveda

I saw it on sign in front of a local church.
Made a point of never forgetting it.


75 posted on 11/01/2008 7:18:23 AM PDT by Salamander (http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/?c=Obama)
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To: lionheart 247365
The Mean Streak Media would have a field day.

Fear of the media is one of the reasons the GOP is seen as weak and pathetic now.
76 posted on 11/01/2008 7:20:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: Blue Turtle

[This just keeps growing...what could this possibly mean?]

What it must mean is that 1) Obama is confirmed American (else Haiwaii would have knowingly thrown the election), but 2) Barack Senior was probably not Barry’s father (else the original birth certificate wouldn’t be an embarrassment).


77 posted on 11/01/2008 7:20:29 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

I suspect that the record is only a “registration of birth”, and that the birth occurred in Kenya.

Nothing wrong with that — because Obama’s mother was a U.S. Citizen, and that would make Obama a citizen — that is, contingent on his mother meeting U.S. residency requirements.

According to Berg, she did not — which puts Obama’s U.S. citizenship into question.

Add to that, Obama was legally adopted by his Indonesian step-father.

This is not going away.


78 posted on 11/01/2008 7:22:52 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (The elephant is dancing for the lady from Alaska)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Oh, goody.

Now I don’t have to feel bad about calling him a “son of a jackal” any more....:)


79 posted on 11/01/2008 7:23:02 AM PDT by Salamander (http://theuniversalseduction.com/articles/?c=Obama)
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To: passionfruit

good points...

I wonder if that is part of the “punishment” that Obama refers to ????

Maybe he is super sensitive in that area...


80 posted on 11/01/2008 7:24:24 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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