Posted on 10/31/2008 10:00:39 AM PDT by LegalEagle61
A massive shift in younger and older voters is roiling the presidential race according to new data from the Fox News/Opinion Dynamics Poll concluded October 28-29. Younger voters -- under 45 -- once Obama's base, now are evenly divided between the two candidates. But voters over 65 have shifted sharply to the Democrat in the past week.
Voters under 45 supported Obama by 52-38 in the Fox News poll of October 21-22. But this week's survey indicates that they now break evenly with 45% supporting Obama and 46% backing McCain. On the other hand, voters 65 and over, who had backed Obama by 46-42 last week have now shifted decisively in his favor and he now leads McCain among seniors by 54-39. Middle aged voters -- aged 45-64 -- are largely unchanged in their views. Last week they backed Obama by 48-40 and this week they still support him by 48-43.
Overall, the Fox News survey shows McCain narrowing Obama's lead from 49-40 (9 points) to 47-44 (3 points) over the past week.
(Excerpt) Read more at dickmorris.com ...
Didn’t Morris just say yesterday that Obama was scaring old people because they were afraid of adding additional people to the healthcare roles because would prevent them from getting into see a physician, yada, yada, yada.
Morris is the person in James 2 (all the pollsters are, they say one thing one day and another thing the next): A double minded man, unstable in all his ways,like a wave driven by the wind and tossed.
They play the electorate like a cheap fiddle. Somebody, in the end will be right, somebody will be wrong. Obama will either be elected, or McCain will. But trying to cover all the bases so they don’t lose their reputations in the end, make pollsters ranking in my book a little lower than used car salesmen. I do not believe the electorate is as fickle as the polls make them seem (that doesn’t mean I don’t think that they have it wrong just because Obama is ahead, if McCain was ahead, but the numbers were changing like this I’d say the same thing.)
I’m a McCain voter and I can believer over 65 are voting for Obama. Stands to reason. Over 65 are drawing out of their retirement plans, many of which were tied up in the Stock Market which lost $3 Trillion in value. It doesn’t hurt younger voters as much because they have a chance to recover those losses if they don’t withdraw from their 401K’s or IRA’s (for early retirees) who are still working. A lot of over 65 voters, because of this, are angry that their retirements are dwindling faster now. For those over 65, that are not big losers in the Market (who don’t have IRA’s or Mutual Funds), bring in less so they stand to receive a check under BHO’s plan since they make less than (in most cases) I’ll estimate about $40-50K. Problem is, I don’t believer BHO will deliver on those promises, no DEM ever has in the last few presidencies.
That is good news, but Obama is dominating the senior citizen vote, very scary if correct since McCain can’t win with numbers like that. That just seems not realistic to me, though. I think seniors are more split.
It amazes me that people in retirement have their money tied up in the stock market. If they're really well off and are just playing, that's one thing. If it's their nest egg and all their retirement savings, quite another.
My dad was one of those who was still in stocks/bond, etc and he's in his 80's. We convinced him to take his money out of the mutual funds/stocks/bonds and roll it over to something more stable just a month before the crash. Then after the crash he was relieved, he would have lost thousands a day if he had left it in the stock market (of course, we continually remind him that he owes us nothing for our wise advice, LOL.)
I know a lady, getting close to 80. She's pro-life, her husband, now deceased, was a lifetime NRA member, staunch Southern Baptists and personally conservative as they come. She votes Democrat in every election. I don't know how she's voting this time, but Democrat before everything else has always been her mantra.
My mom is 76, and is voting for the first time in this election, and she voted for McCain. Actually, she voted FOR Palin, but McCain was also on the ticket. However, a lot of voters over 65 are living on SS, and they don't care about the future. They just want to make sure that the money keeps coming while they are alive. This is not a diss on them. Most of them were savers all their lives, bought one modest home, paid it off and lived fairly frugally.
However, Democrats will tell them that conservatives will cut off their SS, Medicare, etc., and they'll believe it and vote Democrat.
I don't know, my dad is in his 70s and is one of those democrats who (I think) mostly votes republican now since the dems went all lefty on him. But I mentioned I was wondering why the polls show that Obama, who's done nothing, is getting benefit from the financial crisis. And he said "Because he's damned smart! He went to Harvard Law!" I was taken aback a bit, since my dad was one of those who wanted a guy like McCain, he thinks Bush screwed things up and he thinks Bush is a conservative (!) so he wanted a moderate. But now he is leaning towards Obama. Man, that upset me.
I would say most AOL people are older.
This poll says Obama is getting slaughtered...
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/10/24/aol-straw-poll-oct-24-31
McCain 64% to Obama 35%
I would also say AOL subscribers are going to be Americans, so this poll is all Americans (unlike most internet polls) and I believe it is only one vote allowed as well.
Interesting. I don’t know a single young person that uses AOL.
It is an old person place, since well....it is “easier.”
“Republicans will take away your Social Security!”
“Things cost more than they use too!”
Scary stories for seniors on this Halloween day.
Sometimes I think seniors are the “most selfish generation”.
Almost everyone over 70 can still remember Hitler, and they can see definite parallels in Obama.
My son goes to Purdue and he says he sees more Nobama than 0bama.
Thank SNL and Sarah! 0bama in jeans looks like Urkel. Young adults (the thinking ones, anyway) don’t want to vote for “Did I do that” Urkel. They’ll vote for their grandfather and their mom first.
No way is he dominating the seniors, in Florida they are 3 to 1 in the news for McCain!
I know of one, my brain-dead aunt in California who is still making excuses for Jimmy Carter. She's not in the best of health and I think Obama's universal health care plan is what is going to finish her off.
Some people don't realize that they are voting for their own deaths, material and spiritual. Pray for mercy for these folks.
This is Hurting young people as well.The problem with the Under 25 is that Many are having trouble due to these economic times starting a career, even with Science and Engineering educations, hell my friend’s girlfriend can’t find a Law job and she is at a top10 law school.
I’m 67 and so is Mrs. Taxman.
No one asked us who we were voting for, and had they done so, we’d say John McCain and Sarah Palin!
NObama/NObiden votes in this house!
Can’t see seniors voting for NObama — of all age groups, seniors should recognize how utterly ill-prepared, ill-equipped and ill-qualified NObama is to be President.
His, truly, is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury and signifying nothing.
Send you dad the articles FRom the Thomas Sowell thread. Those will change his mind.
I was just about to post the very same thing. Not going to happen.
It's all grandma's pills and the pension check.
I guess the Dems have gone into the 'scare the old folks' mode in their ads. Those of you whose elderly parents are still alive, and vote, PLEASE call them and remind them that it's the Dems who always block reforms to the Soc. Security system, and that it also their benefits, not just those of younger folks who will be entering the system later, that will be in danger, if it isn't fixed.
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