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What will be your first bellweather sign as to which way the election will go?

Posted on 10/27/2008 2:02:11 PM PDT by Osama Obama

What will be your first tipoff as to the final outcome of the election? Will it be the weather forcast a few days before the election? Will it be the reports of where voter turnout is the heaviest? How about the speed with which some of the first states will be called? What's your tell?


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To: CPT Clay

No kidding. There’s been a run on guns and ammo in PA for weeks now, and it’s not because deer season is approaching.


101 posted on 10/27/2008 2:40:19 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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To: LS
If I remember correctly, Indiana's polls close at 6:00 and so does Kentucky. They are usually the first two called. Usually before the network news are over.

I think that's right.

102 posted on 10/27/2008 2:40:47 PM PDT by carton253 (www.headquartersanv.blogspot.com -- for conversations about the Army of Northern Virginia.)
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To: Petronski

HA! You beat me to the punch. Busy day at work, what can I say?


103 posted on 10/27/2008 2:41:25 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Canedawg

I have the same idea about the Phillies. If they win the Series, McCain wins the Presidency.

Just a hunch.


104 posted on 10/27/2008 2:43:06 PM PDT by Palladin (Obama on Ayers: "He's just a guy in my neighborhood." LIAR!!!)
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To: LS
Seriously, the great, great concern is that VA is close enough that they "call" it for Obama, and McCain ends up winning it, but that the early call of VA will be enough to allow them to say the "election is over" and depress the GOP vote so as to actually make it happen.

This is a huge problem.

What can we do to prevent this from happening? How do we fight the media controlling the returns? Is there any way???

105 posted on 10/27/2008 2:45:23 PM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: Osama Obama
Looking to Eastern states that are on the bubble, if McC takes Pennsylvania, he likely wins. If he loses there and in Virginia, then it is almost certainly out of reach. But those and other key states may be so close that it could be a day or two before the result is known — and several states may see election disputes as bad as Florida 2000.
106 posted on 10/27/2008 2:45:43 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: MplsSteve

I count Florida and North Carolina for McCain, but with the ultimate issue still in doubt.


107 posted on 10/27/2008 2:46:41 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Osama Obama

When the neocons return to the Democrat party.


108 posted on 10/27/2008 2:47:21 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Rockingham

So you’re thinking that the race could be decided by what happens in Colorado and/or Nevada?


109 posted on 10/27/2008 2:49:55 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Osama Obama

PA - If Bitterclingyracistrednecksylvania gets called for McCain/Palin, I will be catiously giddy and expecting victory.

VA - If 0bama takes VA and McCain does not flip PA, I will be halfway between depressed and grasping for straws, hoping against hope that McCain can hold onto CO and also win either MN, WI, NM or NH.

If McCain wins VA but loses PA (as I expect) I will find a link to the CO returns and hit refresh every 4 seconds until at least midnight

I am confident that McCain/Palin will win FL, NC, OH, IN and MO.

As for the coverage, the terms ‘voter supression’ and ‘racism’ mentioned frequently by the MSM, early in the evening would be a very, very positive sign for McCain/Palin.


110 posted on 10/27/2008 2:51:43 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: edzo4

The “Bradley effect” is largely a myth, but there is sometimes a “social effect” in which undecideds break against the dominant candidate. In truth, many supposed undecideds intend to vote for the candidate disfavored by the opinion elites and their bully boys but will not say so to a stranger on telephone. This election seems of that type.


111 posted on 10/27/2008 2:52:32 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: GoSarah
NH will be the first state I’ll watch.

VA and NC will be absolutely worthless as a comparision point due to AA turnout. But NH is a good one to watch.

The sooner it is called for Obama, the better it is for Obama.

McCain can win without NH, but if he does, it’s a secure victory for him.

Concur. But on the East Coast also watch Florida, in particular Allen West's first-time congressional campaign in the FL 22nd Congressional District.

In the Midwest, watch Indiana, which has usually been solidly Republican in most previous presidential races, is at least as important as Ohio and Pennsylvania, though Indiana has but 11 electoral votes; here a McCain loss would probably indicate additional bad news as more Western states that had previously been thought of as safe territory for Republicans.

Out west: watch Montana, a generally Republican state with a Dem Governor.

Yeah, the weather really could be a factor on turnout numbers in some areas this year, too....

But I agree that NH is one of the first ones to keep an eye on. The potential for a McCain sweep is certainly there.

112 posted on 10/27/2008 2:53:45 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: CaliforniaCon

Redistribution of the wealth is a terrible idea. I do not mind helping people who are willing to try real hard. Why
just give handouts in exchange for votes to those who have less?


113 posted on 10/27/2008 2:56:08 PM PDT by FreedBird (H)
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To: edzo4

The effect you describe is broadly known to pollsters as the “social effect” and is less a matter of race than the intimidation often exercised by Obama supporters.


114 posted on 10/27/2008 2:56:16 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: COUNTrecount

That one works for me.


115 posted on 10/27/2008 2:56:52 PM PDT by sportutegrl (0bi has been looking a little wan.)
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To: Osama Obama

NH and Maine 2nd Congressional. If McCain takes those it will be a very good night. If Obama wins them then it will be a very very long night. The only thing then that changes an Obama win is if McCain snags PA.


116 posted on 10/27/2008 2:57:52 PM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: Osama Obama
When I see every Obama voter walking sullenly in darkened streets, arms raised to the heaven's cursing the gods they don't believe in ... then I will be happy and call it a night.
117 posted on 10/27/2008 3:00:14 PM PDT by spodefly (Recycling the same posts in multiple threads for seven years!)
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To: pgkdan
Don’t forget 2004. The networks called VA for Kerry...

Not so. None of the networks every called VA for Kerry in 2004, though there were rumors to that effect online.

118 posted on 10/27/2008 3:00:39 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swift boating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: Osama Obama

When you see gov bill richardson on fox news election night say wait! I just think they found another 20,000 votes for bama!


119 posted on 10/27/2008 3:02:15 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Yaelle
Seriously, the great, great concern is that VA is close enough that they "call" it for Obama, and McCain ends up winning it, but that the early call of VA will be enough to allow them to say the "election is over" and depress the GOP vote so as to actually make it happen.

This is a huge problem.

Particularly since if it occurs that way, it could effect the other states in more western time zones where a growing inertia or *snowball effect* for Obama may well be reported by his Quisling media friends even if it doesn't really occur. Most certainly they'll be trying to do everything they can to present the results as Obama-favourable.

This was also the problam we faced in 2000 when we worked really, really hard to help defeay candidate Gore in his home state of Tennessee, hoping that his poor showing there would have results on left-coast voting. As it turned out, the networks simply held back the results from Tennessee until after the California polls had closed.

Our efforts were not totally wasted, however. Since Gore failed to carry his home state or his home county, he lost the 11 electoral votes of his home state...and had he won them, would not have needed the 25 electoral votes he was seeking from the Florida results.

120 posted on 10/27/2008 3:06:07 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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