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If the AP is correct, Barack Obama’s base problem is very serious
The Collins Report ^ | Oct. 23, 2008 | Kevin “Coach” Collins

Posted on 10/24/2008 4:50:32 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

A recent AP poll screamed trouble for Barack Obama.

It reported his base support to be just 80%. If this is accurate, and that is a very big IF, he can not win.

Last June when former Hillary Clinton supporters were asked, 58% supported Obama. But the same survey also showed 21% voting for John McCain. A follow-up survey of the very same people showed support for McCain had grown to 28% while remaining stagnant at 58% for Obama. The undecideds seem to be moving to McCain.

These numbers have been swept under the rug by the media, but they are still very important.

During the Democratic primaries, exit polls showed a consistent core of 20% that would not be voting for Obama in the general election.

Whether Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos can be blamed for this distressing news for Obama can be debated, but it doesn’t completely explain away the numbers in the face of subsequent polls showing the same results.

If Obama is getting just 80% of Democrat support he is in trouble. A base support this low can not be overcome and will not get Obama elected. Almost all polls of rank and file Democrats have shown Obama’s base support in the eighties and mid seventies.

In 2000 Al Gore got 92% and lost. In 2004 John Kerry got 89% and lost by a clear margin.

There would have to be a huge difference in party identification to pull Obama through with just 80% of his base. The reported split among Independents doesn’t help either.

A September AP poll of Democratic and Independent likely voters showed that 1/3 hold negative views of Blacks. The same surveyed showed that 40% of all Americans have negative views toward Blacks. Is it that hard to believe the 80% support level?

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To: MrB

The wife & I decided long ago to not take chances. No yard signs, no bumper stickers, nothing. Not having yard signs is typical for us but we always have had bumper stickers in the past. Not this year. Especially with Obama’s call to “get in their faces”, who needs the hassle.

It will be interesting Tuesday morning, the 4th, when we get up to go to vote. Not because we expect busloads of illegal voters at our polls (not here where I live), but just the turnout itself. We know the people who work the election and should have an idea of what’s happening in our little neck of the swamp...


41 posted on 10/24/2008 6:15:39 AM PDT by bcsco (Palin started her political career in a small town, Obama from the house of a domestic terrorist.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

True dat.


42 posted on 10/24/2008 6:20:10 AM PDT by SaintDismas (Starting to regret the handle I chose for this forum)
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To: Edit35

I personally would not tell a pollster my opinion.
I do not know who is calling, only who they say they are - and I don’t think that qualifies them to hear my opinion.

Additionally, I don’t know anyone that would answer questions.

I have seen people post here that would answer a poll, but I still consider myself part of the ‘Silent Majority’.


43 posted on 10/24/2008 6:22:05 AM PDT by Verbosus
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To: bcsco
We have a yard sign.Everybody asks where we got it as they walk by.I was polled door to door.Told them I voted for Obama in the primary because I was sure he was the weakest candidate.Told her I switched parties to do it but in the general I was voting for McCain because he is pro-life.Told her that her candidate was leading in the polls so I was wrong about him being the weakest.She did not smile.
44 posted on 10/24/2008 6:29:35 AM PDT by fatima (Let's Go Phillies.)
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To: bcsco

Yeah, there are too many “0bama’s volunteer brownshirts” out there that will commit actual politically motivated hate crimes on the opposition.

People should think about what would happen if these people get the power of gov’t behind them.


45 posted on 10/24/2008 6:37:13 AM PDT by MrB (0bama supporters: What's the attraction? The Marxism or the Infanticide?)
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To: ncfool

“Fox News Radio reported Obama spent ONE HOUR with GRANDMA and left. Just like his August visit.”

One wonders where the _rest_ of his time there was spent?

Cleaning up things over at the department of records?

You betcha!

- John


46 posted on 10/24/2008 6:44:20 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
Obama will get 45% nationally. Its 4 points less than his 49% vote in some polls but it seems to be about right. He has not been able to get over 50% in the home stretch of the election. All the polls with bogus double digit leads show Obama has not expanded his base of support. He's done. I called the election for McCain in September. And nothing I've seen thus far has changed my view except that the MSM has spent a great deal of time lying about their guy and doing all they can to make him appear more popular that he is really is with the country.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

47 posted on 10/24/2008 12:32:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: jmaroneps37

bmflr


48 posted on 10/24/2008 1:16:07 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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49 posted on 10/24/2008 1:18:13 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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