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"Politically Motivated" Mutilation - Real or Hoax? (Will Make You Too Angry To Barf Alert)
TMZ ^ | Oct 23rd 2008 | TMZ Staff

Posted on 10/23/2008 4:38:01 PM PDT by Entrepreneur

"Politically Motivated" Mutilation - Real or Hoax?

Pittsburgh law enforcement sources tell TMZ they have serious questions about the authenticity of the alleged victim who says she had her face cut by a politically-motivated attacker.

We're told there are several things about the alleged attack that don't add up. A Pittsburgh PD official says they are conducting a "thorough investigation" and have not determined if the alleged attack is real or a hoax. But we're told there is definitely a level of skepticism.

As we reported, the alleged victim claims she went to an ATM and when she turned around, a large dark-skinned man took the money she withdrew. She says when he noticed she had a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car, he became enraged, knocked her down and cut a "B" in her face.

We're told the woman refused medical assistance at the scene and said she would go to the hospital the next day.

The investigation continues.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antichrist; ashleytodd; assault; brownshirts; dncbrownshirts; hatecrimehoax; obama; pittsburgh; thugocracy
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To: cajungirl

Oh my Lord. What a horrible experience. Thank goodness for big poodles. People have no idea how much fight a standard poodle can put up...great dogs.

Anyway, could everyone who is so inclined please pray for this poor girl to have the strength to put up with the buckets of waste that are about to come her way? True or untrue, this story is about to change this poor child’s whole world. I would not want to be in her shoes and may God please look after her.


101 posted on 10/23/2008 5:09:39 PM PDT by lovesdogs
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To: SuziQ

I could buy this being done by a key by the attacker.

This is not the wound from a night attack with a knife. It just isn’t.


102 posted on 10/23/2008 5:10:05 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: SuziQ

Seems too many are way too quick to dismiss this as a fraud without any investigation.


103 posted on 10/23/2008 5:10:35 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Invert the 5-4 and you have no rights.)
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To: conservativepoet

Why would it “be easy to verify since she’s apart of the college Republicans”? People who perpetrate hoaxes like this are generally doing it to get attention and increase their status within their peer group. She’s a College Republican, but maybe she thinks the other College Republicans don’t take her seriously enough, and this would make her a star within the group. I read that she’s already gotten a call from Palin.

College girls who’ve pubicly recounted impassioned stories of how they were raped, which are later found to be fake, have been active in feminist political groups that were big on pushing the idea that women get raped all the time, no matter how careful they are. The same groups push them to the forefront and make campus and local stars out of them, once they claim to have been raped.

Don’t you think its awfully convenient that this young woman who is so eagerly running all over the northeast trying to drum up support for McCain-Palin just happened to get mugged at an ATM by the only mugger in Greater Pittsburgh (or the nation, as far as we’ve heard) who reacts to the sight of a McCain sticker on his victim’s car by stopping to scratch a “B” in her cheek before making himself scarce after the ATM job?

Looks to me like she was VERY careful not to make that “cut” so deep that it could leave a scar. I can’t quite imagine a mugger/carver being so cautious . . . and so neat . . .


104 posted on 10/23/2008 5:10:45 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: American Infidel
I do not know the techniques used but a poster on another thread reversed the photo somehow.

post #812

Thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2113411/posts?q=1&;page=801

105 posted on 10/23/2008 5:11:06 PM PDT by mware
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To: buccaneer81
I'm afraid so, my ex-girlfriend did it, she was a pretty women too
106 posted on 10/23/2008 5:13:20 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

“The ATM camera probably caught part of the conflict.”

She claimed it was out of sight from the camera.
But there’s an easy way to verify this.

She also claims she was there to use the ATM. The bank should have both a record of the transaction, AND, her image recorded as she was making the withdrawal.

Make that [beforehand] image public. What does her face look like then?

We don’t need hoaxes, if this is indeed one proffered “for our side”.

Someone should get to the bottom of this, quickly. Failure to do so will only provide ammunition for the other side.

I’m wondering just how deep her “Republican credentials” go, as well. As deep as her wounds?

Sorry for the unsympathetic suggestions, but this kind of stuff is usually perpetrated by the other side.... which is why I’m sensing “double-agent” here...

- John


107 posted on 10/23/2008 5:13:48 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Entrepreneur

The rush to doubt the woman’s story is shallow.

A knife tip held with pressure on its side against skin and slowly moved across skin in a directon away from the point could make scratch marks like the ones in the picture of the woman’s face.

In order to do so, the victim’s head would have to be cradled against the attackers body. This cannot be done unless the victim’s head is in a position in which the scratching of the B would end up looking just like it does.

In other words, turn the photo of the head back into the same position it was when the attacker scratched it with his knife, and the B is exactly like he would have scratched it. It is only when the woman’s head is upright that the B appears to be written backwards.

It was shallow to jump to the conclusion that the B was scratched with the sharp edge of the knife rather than with the side of knife end moving across the skin under pressure.

It was shallow to jump to the conclusion that the mark could not have been produced by a knife.

It was shallow to jump to the conclusion that the mark was either scratched or painted on by the woman while looking into a mirror.

The B is not entirely neat. Notice a lesser mark off to the side. Notice the bruises on the face which are evidence that the woman’s story is true.

I know something about the hatred some Obama supporters have for McCain supporters. And I do know that Obama prompted his supporters “to get in the faces” of McCain supporters. The woman’s story fits in with that directive by Obama.

Should the woman’s story be true, I would not want to be among those who rushed to doubt it.


108 posted on 10/23/2008 5:14:16 PM PDT by John McDonnell
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To: MilspecRob

Sorry to hear that.


109 posted on 10/23/2008 5:14:53 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: edzo4

OR because she was on the ground and he carved in her face UPSIDE DOWN.


110 posted on 10/23/2008 5:15:04 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: denydenydeny
The difference is, the media never rushes to question phony hate crimes against leftists and minorities.

We are better than "the media", and should not hesitate to ask hard questions when someone makes fishy claims about having been a victim of a "hate crime" on our behalf.

111 posted on 10/23/2008 5:16:19 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Entrepreneur

from the picture I am betting on HOAX

I was willing to believe it, but the BACKWARDS B is a dead giveaway

1) Picture yourself writing it on your face and how it would look, now try writing it so the letter is correct- you can easily make a backwards B on your own face, a correct B is hard.

2) Now picture the criminal writing ON you- why would HE write it backwards?


112 posted on 10/23/2008 5:16:28 PM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: frogjerk

She’s a long time McCain volunteer from Texas.

Both campaigns have issued statements. Mac and Palin have called her and her parents. Do you think ANY of that would have happened if it had been a hoax?


113 posted on 10/23/2008 5:16:44 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Take a look at her blog.

http://lifeinthefield.com/users/ashley-todd


114 posted on 10/23/2008 5:17:05 PM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Texas_shutterbug

Bloomfield is Pittsburgh’s “Little Italy”.

It isn’t a bad part of town per se, even if it’s next to East Liberty, which is.


115 posted on 10/23/2008 5:17:50 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
But you don’t have to ask really idiotic questions like “Who lets themselves be held down and have a letter scribed into their face?” either.

Very good penmanship, wouldn't you say? Especially on a soft medium like a face. I am skeptical.

116 posted on 10/23/2008 5:18:03 PM PDT by frogjerk (Palin's record is on the record, while whole years of Obama's life are engulfed in fog - T. Sowell)
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To: Entrepreneur

Ever done that?

The pic is obviously with a flash. If shot in the mirror all you’d ever see is white light obscuring most everything.


117 posted on 10/23/2008 5:19:51 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: Mr. K
Now picture the criminal writing ON you- why would HE write it backwards?

IF she were already on the ground and the aledged assailant bent over her on his knees from above her head he would be carving a normal "B" that appears backward when we view her face normally.

118 posted on 10/23/2008 5:20:41 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Entrepreneur

When I take pictures of the kids on the Photo Booth on my Mac, they are mirror images unless I set it to automatically adjust. I didn’t know I could do that the first year I owned this computer. The first 500 pictures are all mirrored. Could it be that she took the picture on her computer and clicked the email button without taking the time to switch it around?


119 posted on 10/23/2008 5:21:11 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Both campaigns have issued statements. Mac and Palin have called her and her parents. Do you think ANY of that would have happened if it had been a hoax?

A hoax is believed by some. It doesn't have to be out of the realm of possibility. The circumstances need to be verified.

120 posted on 10/23/2008 5:21:51 PM PDT by frogjerk (Palin's record is on the record, while whole years of Obama's life are engulfed in fog - T. Sowell)
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