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Stop Waving the Bloody Shirt (Another Nat. Review guy wanting to surrender on Ayers)
NRO ^ | 10/17/08 | Mark Kirkorkian

Posted on 10/17/2008 12:20:48 PM PDT by pissant

I'm with David Frum on this from yesterday:

But Obama? McCain’s attack on him is the equivalent of the William McKinley campaign attacking William Jennings Bryan for having kept company with Nathan Bedford Forrest decades after the Civil War. Yes, the old rebel was an unrepentant traitor. Mostly though, he was all washed up.

Republicans have been fighting this second American civil war for eleven election cycles now. It’s been a good run! But just as 19th-Century Republicans eventually ran out of Union generals from Ohio, so the modern Republican Party has bumped up against the statute of limitations on campaigns against hippies.

McCain needed a bigger message.

Look, the Democrats paid a richly deserved price for embracing the America-hating scum of the 60s, just as they deserved to pay for being the party of slavery and treason. And emotionally I get it — I was just a kid during the 60s, but the very thought of Jane Fonda visiting Hanoi still fills me with physical disgust and if I ever ran into her I'd spit on the ground and turn away. But, justly or not, we've reached the point where waving the bloody shirt of 60s radicalism just doesn't work any more.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: billayers; giveup; kirkorian; larrysinclairslover; nationalreview; obama; proterrorist; surrendermonkey; whiteflag
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To: pissant

You have connected the dots perfectly, something the folks at NRO do not seem to be able to do.

Ayers still wants to destroy our system and way of life. He is just going about it by other means. He is one of the puppet masters behind Obama.


21 posted on 10/17/2008 12:32:47 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person-Snow white)
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Stein, Nordlinger, Robinson, Kudlow, and VDH are there, too.


22 posted on 10/17/2008 12:33:01 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: pissant
A civil war is not treason.

LOL. You would deny that the Confederacy levied war against the United States? The Confederacy, in view of that non-living document we know as the Constitution of the United States of America, is the poster child for treason.

23 posted on 10/17/2008 12:33:40 PM PDT by dmz
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To: ConservativeMind

There are some good writers at Nat. review. And Kirkorkian has some good stuff too. But this Frum inspired drivel that Ayers and Wright and Khalidi and ACORN and Frank Marshall Davis, and Ed Siad are not worth attacking on is mystifying.

If McCain palled around with the David Duke, sat on a board that gave the KKK money for its educational projects, had friends in and was endorsed by the NAZI party USA, attended a “White Identity” church for 20 years, was mentored in his youth by Joe McCarthy and praised Joe in his book, and then dismissed it all as just part of Arizona neighborhood politics, he’d be cricified, and rightly so.


24 posted on 10/17/2008 12:38:43 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: dmz

Well, I’m sure King George thought that those damn American subjects were quite treasonous too.


25 posted on 10/17/2008 12:40:20 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
...the modern Republican Party has bumped up against the statute of limitations on campaigns against hippies.

No!

The hippies aren't finished fighting yet. In fact, they're increasingly running the place! So the war goes on!

If Ayers weren't still teaching and advocating Communist principles tirelessly, then we could let his memory fade into the past. But the reality is that the bombs he detonated in the 60's are nothing compared to the destructive force of the principles he continues to spread and support.

26 posted on 10/17/2008 12:41:47 PM PDT by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: pissant

Plus, as my tagline suggests, Ayers is so wrapped around Obama’s past that I am afraid he’s owed bigtime.


27 posted on 10/17/2008 12:42:21 PM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: TChris

Well said. Something that the Frum’s of the world can’t grasp.


28 posted on 10/17/2008 12:43:06 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: i_dont_chat
Didn’t someone die due to the terrorists action of Bill Ayers wife (or live-in)?

See this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2108234/posts?page=9#9

29 posted on 10/17/2008 12:43:11 PM PDT by ETL (Smoking gun evidence on ALL the ObamaRat-commie connections at my newly revised FR Home/About page)
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To: pissant

the difference is that the confederates and Ayers wanted slavery and the Americans wanted freedom


30 posted on 10/17/2008 12:43:31 PM PDT by ari-freedom (It's the socialism, stupid.)
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To: pissant
But, justly or not, we've reached the point where waving the bloody shirt of 60s radicalism just doesn't work any more.

Sure. Just ask President Kerry.

31 posted on 10/17/2008 12:44:07 PM PDT by Interesting Times (For the truth about "swiftboating" see ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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To: pissant

I see nothing wrong with continuing to hit Hussein on his past associations. If I were McCain I would let Palin do most of this. I would also smack him hard on the Joe the Plumber thing which is now two-pronged: Hussein’s Marxist answer and the utterly despicible way in which Joe has been slimed.

Also, why hasn’t some enterprising 527 been running the “Reverend” Wright’s greatest hits and asking how it is that Hussein could have sat in the pews at least half the Sunday’s (by Hussein’s own admission in the O’Reilly interview) for over 20 years and never get a hint of the “reverend’s” racist and anti-American views?


32 posted on 10/17/2008 12:45:15 PM PDT by scory
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To: pissant

When did NRO start receuiting Girlie men?


33 posted on 10/17/2008 12:45:36 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
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To: i_dont_chat
Didn’t someone die due to the terrorists action of Bill Ayers wife (or live-in)? SF Patrolman Brian McDonnell. NRO can kiss my ass.
34 posted on 10/17/2008 12:47:14 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
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To: i_dont_chat
Didn’t someone die due to the terrorists action of Bill Ayers wife (or live-in)?

SF Patrolman Brian McDonnell.

NRO can kiss my ass.

35 posted on 10/17/2008 12:47:30 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (It's no longer the Press Van, it's a "Tanker" Truck!)
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To: pissant
I wasn't trying to hijack the thread in to an immigration thread, so let me make some other connections.

Kerkorian relates prairie populist Brian to Forest as a way of saying that there are those republicans that are still fighting the civil war.

You need to realize that Brian was also the plaintiff's lawyer in the Scopes monkey trial and there are many in the GOP that are still fighting the war between the creationists and the evolutionists!

36 posted on 10/17/2008 12:48:17 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: pissant
Well, I’m sure King George thought that those damn American subjects were quite treasonous too.

They were. It's what the word means. It's an on/off switch, you are or you are not.

Whether it is a good or bad thing depends on which side you're on.

37 posted on 10/17/2008 12:49:10 PM PDT by dmz
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To: pissant

If WFB’s National Review fought the Cold War like NRO is fighting this election May Day would be a national holiday.


38 posted on 10/17/2008 12:49:15 PM PDT by AU72
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To: steve-b

The former committed far more damaging and profound treason.

Then in your mind George Washington committed treason as well?


39 posted on 10/17/2008 12:50:42 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: pissant

1. Ayers and Obama’s other associations are working.

FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt) was used as a marketing strategy by IBM starting the ‘60s when the dominated corporate computing. It is designed to make people afraid of CHANGE. When a company was thinking of purchasing a mainframe from an IBM competitor, they would just say “Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM”. The implication was that change was too risky (even if it did offer more promise.)

McCain needs to create FUD about Obama in the minds of voters. Turn the change mantra on its head. Make people concerned that they might regret voting for Obama down the road.

2. I think we are seeing the return of the pre-Reagan, inside the beltway Republicans. They hated to FIGHT.

They want to pursue politics as though it was a chess match. What they don’t understand is that it isn’t chess match, it is a boxing match. You don’t win by standing there and showing people how many punches you can take, you have to land enough punches to knock out your opponent also.


40 posted on 10/17/2008 12:51:51 PM PDT by Brookhaven
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