Posted on 10/09/2008 10:40:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I realized something after Tuesday night's debate: If (big if) Barack Obama is not elected president next month, it will not be John McCain who defeats him.
McCain may be Obama's official opponent, but he isn't making the core case against him: namely, the case against Obama's deep roots in radicalism, which the Democratic nominee has never pulled up and grown away from. This is why if Obama loses on Election Day, it won't be McCain who defeats him. Like a flashy third-party candidate who ends up drawing just enough support from one candidate to put the other over the top, it is Obama's connections to anti-American extremism -- his incubation in a radical comfort zone home to ex-Weather Underground leader William Ayers, ex-PLO mouthpiece Rashid Khalidi, anti-white-and-anti-"middleclassness" minister Jeremiah Wright and others -- that will doom his presidential ambitions.
McCain, Obama and, coming up on the outside, Obama's radicalism: This three-way race has created a weird dynamic as the candidates turn into the final stretch. Blinkers on, McCain hobbles after Obama, who is now desperately trying to shake off the radicalism that could trip him up before the finish line. Again, no thanks to McCain, whose winks at Obama's radicalism, Sarah Palin's stumpside references notwithstanding, are not what has brought it to the fore. The fact is, Obama's ties to radicalism are taking on a life of their own.
Such a "life" is in no way documented in the mainstream media (MSM). Just consider our leading journalists' idea of professional responsibility when it comes to, for example, Obama's connection to unrepentant Pentagon bomber William Ayers.
Ayers -- a violent, 1960s militant who later decided that radicalizing education in the guise of "reform" was the front-line of revolution -- is infamous for a New York Times interview published on Sept. 11, 2001 in which he not only declared America "makes me want to puke," but also discussed his group's violent attacks on American military and civilian targets, asserting, "we didn't do enough." His working relationship with Obama, as documented by Stanley Kurtz, goes back to the 1990s when Obama served as chairman of a $150 million charity, which Kurtz describes as Ayers' "brainchild," that doled out money to far-left groups such as ACORN. Funny, as Kurtz has noted, Obama never mentioned these five years of what is his only executive experience in either of his two memoirs. Not so funny is Obama's dishonest description of Ayers as "just a guy who lives in my neighborhood."
MSM coverage of the relationship has been hardly more forthcoming. It runs from demonstrable whitewash -- as put over in the New York Times, which, in nixing notable ties, omitted all mention of copious, previously published evidence to the contrary -- to overt damage control, as conducted by the Associated Press. The AP actually argued that Palin's reference to the Obama-Ayers relationship as Obama "(palling) around with terrorists" conveyed a "racially tinged subtext." Huh? According to the AP, Palin's remarks were racist because "terrorists are envisioned as dark-skinned radical Muslims." Therefore....
Are they kidding? In a word, no. But such efforts may signal a desperate response to growing, inchoate unease in the land, a silent, or sighing, or very privately discussed queasiness over the prospect of making an American president out of a man who not only didn't cross the street to shun a punk like Ayers, but was so comfortable with Ayers -- who, not incidentally, in 1995 described himself as "a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist" -- that Obama launched his political career from Ayers' living room, also in 1995.
This relationship continued, as even the New York Times perhaps inadvertently reported: Obama "said they have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Mr. Obama began serving in the United States Senate in January 2005." Ask yourself: What American president -- any party, any era -- would have maintained correspondence with Mr. America "makes me want to puke" for that long? And about the year 2005: Isn't that roughly when Obama decided to run for president?
Americans may be fuzzy on the details -- and how could they be clear, given the media's pro-Obama activities -- but some are realizing, slowly and with no corroboration in the public square, that such radical ties don't pass presidential muster.
Or do they? In the end, the answer will decide the election. Meanwhile, we, the people, are on our own. Once, America's political and media and social institutions would have reflexively rejected a presidential candidate with an alliance with, or even an affinity for, an unrepentant terrorist and anti-establishment revolutionary. No more. The line between the establishment and the anti-establishment has vanished -- at least as far as our political and media and social institutions are concerned. But there remain citizens for whom such distinctions matter.
Writing at National Review Online, Andrew C. McCarthy pegged the significance of the Obama-Ayers connection: "Yes, Ayers is blunter than Obama. As he so delicately told the Times, America makes him `want to puke.' The smoother Obama is content to say our society needs fundamental `change.' But what they're talking about," he wrote, referring to their complementary visions, "is not materially different. Such sentiments should make Obama unelectable."
Actually, such sentiments should make Obama radioactive. But ours is a culture of relativism in which one "belief system" is considered as valid as any other. Democracy? Marxism? Whatever! Lawful elections? Bombing the Pentagon? What's the difference? So greatly transformed by relativism is our society that not even elder statesman and veteran John McCain is alarmed by Obama's radicalism. If he were, this patriot who puts "country first," would be doing everything in his power to warn the American people against it.
Not that it matters, not now, not since Obama's radicalism entered the race. If this stalking horse finishes strong, Obama loses and America wins -- despite the other candidate.
Excellent column.
This column should be on realclearpolitics.
That pretty well sums things up.
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It sure as hell won’t be someone like ABC, CBS, or NBC /CNN that wakes you up....
And America may very well find out that you really do get what you voted for, in a very damning way.
No, it won’t be John McCain who defeats Barack Hussein Obama, that’s for d*mn sure.
If anybody is to take him down, it’s going to have to be us.
McCain is losing this campaign because he refuses to fight Obama and his lies, and dirty tactics such as ACORN voter fraud. Hes just been rolling over (or bending over, I should say) and accepting the abuse heaped upon him- and expecially Sarah Palin.
He should have been hitting Obama back hard months ago.
He needs to get out there every day and FIGHT BACK- name names.
Email Republican headquarters/McCain.
FReep EM OUT!
REMIND McCAIN THAT HE HAS AN OBLIGATION AS OUR CANDIDATE TO FIGHT BACK!
To h*ll with bipartisian BS!
To h*ll with PC!
To h*ll with conducting a respectful campaignas McCain has said, and vowed to do.
RESPECTFUL CAMPAIGNING WENT STRAIGHT OUT THE WINDOW WITH OBAMAS NASTY, BRUTAL COMMENTS SUCH AS;
lipstick on a pig and You can wrap AN OLD FISH in a piece of paper called change. Its still going to stink after eight years.
Take off the gloves, McCain!
Hit the Marxist/Muslim hard with Ayers, Acorn, Violation of Logan Act, abortion, 2nd admendment, Campaigning for Odinga!!
Get off the d*mned economy issue. State that Obama/Democrats/ACORN caused this meltdown. State McCain offered a proposal to avert the meltdown, state your solution- and GET OFF IT.
Obama is counting on keeping this going to take the spotlight off his sordid past and dirty dealings!
NOTHING is more important than waking America up to this Marxist/Muslim!! DO IT. EXPOSE HIM!
FReep EM!!!!
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Anderson Cooper of CNN gets it. He did a story of Obama’s deep involvement with Ayers.
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I’m with you on that brother. I can’t even sleep these days shuddering about what might happen to us in a few weeks. I need to spend some time with the Lord, or I’m gonna go crazy worrying about our country. I’m optimistic, but I’d be dishonest not to admit I’m really really scared.
It would seem the last debate is the point to pull the trigger and let the howling of the press, nutroots etc. be answered via an ad blitz.
Obama has been spending like a drunken sailor on tv ads etc. and it has had some effect obviously (not including the free ads from the MSM) but the fact remains that McCain/Palin have been saving their ammunition for the last 20 days after the third debate on the 15th. Blitz with the positive but more importantly the questionable associations of Ayers, Wright, Rezko, New Party, ACORN, blank spaces in bio, under-$200 donations, Fannie Mae/Mac, Johnson, Raines etc. Don't be surprised if it becomes apparent that Obama has spent more on ads than he should have.
The left/Obama will bitch and moan about how negative McCain is being but the fact remains it will strike a huge note when people wonder about how some very detestable, shady, radical characters are just coming to the fore right at the time a huge amount of undecideds decide and hopefully some that have diecided change their minds. In turn they will also question how a "free press" decided to simply give a free pass.
After going back and forth a few times, I am, alas, convinced this nightmare is going to be at least four years long.
I'm not in the mood for back-and-forthing on this. I understand mine is a minority opinion here. I get it. The election hasn't happened yet. I get it. The polls can't predict... I get it, okay?
But people around here seem to forget--because we have already pushed him aside as not part of this election--that George W. Bush is not loved in this country. He is so disliked that the party he is a part of is going to feel the wrath of voters. Obama keeps talking about "8 years of failed policies" because IT WORKS. It reopens that wound, and when we look for the source of that pain continuing, we see the guy with the R after his name.
The Americans who will vote for Obama don't care about the intricacies of porkbarrel this or Ayers that, or "My friends" or any number of things. And they don't think Sarah Palin is a genius and so incredibly awesome that they simply MUST vote for her. She isn't as popular as we seem to think she is.
Americans want CHANGE. They think the world is horrible, and they want to change things as much as they possibly can. They have been fed a steady diet of "The Rich" and "The Greedy" FROM BOTH CAMPAIGNS as well as the news media. The Republican party is still considered The Party of the Rich.
You can tell these people the mountain of facts behind this stunningly empty suit and THEY DO NOT CARE. They are like children holding their hands over their ears and humming and saying "I can't heeeeear yooooou!" Because they would have to listen to a lot of information, read boring articles. And all these voters want is to work their jobs, come home, and turn on the tube, and see their 401k is doing nicely.
Iraq isn't an issue that will decide this election. McCain can keep saying "He was wrong about Iraq!"--no one gives a damn because we were ALL wrong on Iraq--the WMDs weren't there (I know that's not the only reason we went there, but we let the news media MAKE that the only reason). So when Obama says "Iraq didn't cause 9-11," boom, that's the quick answer a frustrated, scared voter who wants the government to Make Things Better needs so he can repeat it when one of us gets into the complexities of life.
Obama's emptiness makes him the perfect candidate for our times because he's basically saying to the voter, "Imagine what you will--I have a pleasant smile, I'm not scary like that guy over there, I'm cool like the cliche of the suave black guy in a suit--look at him, cranky like your grandfather."
We seem to have forgotten that not all Americans are like us, and many Americans vote on what they WANT reality to be. They WANT Obama to be An Agent of Change because then they can feel SOMEthing will change (because things WILL change with him, good God they will). They WANT Obama to just be cool, because then they can claim to have done something GOOD themselves--I voted for a black guy, I've done something that will bring racial equality to our troubled nation!
I just don't see us waking from this nightmare early in November. I go to Realclear and I look at those polls, and I look at the news media reports, and I look at McCain's awful debate performances...and I just don't see a win.
I wish I did.
The Post American World of Barack Obama
The Post American World, by Fareed Zakaria
Barack Obama & the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
Listen to this Interview of James Simpson, by Sandy Rios, Tuesday 9/30 - WYLL 1160AM, Chicago, IL
From http://www.culturecampaign.com/culturecorner.aspx
Simpson documents his research in his article, providing Web links. He provides a rough flow chart.
Further corroboration on Obama & The Cloward-Piven Strategy:
Obama, Voter Fraud & Mortgage Meltdown, by James H. Walsh, former federal prosecutor.
On Barack Obama's Marxist connections in Chicago
Web Archives Confirm Barack Obama Was Member Of [Marxist] Socialist 'New Party' In 1996
On Alice Palmer, the South Side's Marxist State Senator, Who Hand Picked Barack Obama to Succeed Her
More on Obama's Marxist alliance with Radical Islamists:
And then there are... Herbert and Marion Sandler, the Pritzkers, and the "loose lips" of Charles Schumer and Harry Reid (and Henry Paulson is not above suspicion, with his control-freak power play and Goldman Sachs cronyism).
Get these breakthrough items out to everyone you know (or anything even more informative that comes up) -- voters, media, officials and staff of both parties, everyone. We have time if we act now.
That post just put a big grin on the MSM.
Their labors have born much fruit here.
Most of the polls have oversampling of Dems by a greater amount than Obambi's lead.
And don't forget Operation Chaos (DINOs) and PUMAs.
Cheers! Cheers!
I understand your overall point but the truth is McCain was the guy that was always the liberal media's favorite bacause was a "maverick" that would cross party lines. The youngest voters will not know him that way but anyone over thirty will - whether they support him or not.
The polls are too erratic, have different questions, sample sizes, party affiliation percentages, type of voter etc. to be too disparate to possibly show an honest average.
If McCain drives home some of the unknowns, radical associations etc. of Obama he is not so much trying to change the minds of those made up but to motivate some that may have been sitting out because of indifference, anger at the Republicans in general or simply waking up from a lifelong MSM fantasy production of objective reality.
This is not over because more people than one may think are going to vote a split ticket that goes for McCain at the top and Dems all the way below; their own comfortable version of balance of powers.
Well, that isn't comprehensively true. I accept that the things alleged against ACORN and their intellectual Mephistopheles, namely Saul Alinsky and Frances Fox Piven, are fairly represented in other FR threads and links.
But the larger economic meltdown is much larger than any CRA-enabled CMO sump. It encompasses securitized credit-card and GMAC debt offerings, plus credit-default swaps (the 800-pound gorilla), and a host of other problem areas, any one of which could have individually caused the current credit-freezeup migraine. It was just a race to see which area got screwed up first.
People at some level understand that, and on top of it, many of them like Obama at some level because he's personable and smooth, so that if you try to load the whole mess onto ACORN's and Obama's backs, a) it won't be accurate, and b) people will understand that and dismiss your charges as half-truthful polemic. (I.e. as no better than ACORN's.) You will end up losing traction for your charges, however true, and credibility for yourself.
If there is a Wednesday-morning surprise and McCain upsets Obama, it'll be the PUMA's voting for McCain. Whether Sarah Palin's conservatism (God bless her!) has found their "off" switch, one can only guess.
They and the Hispanic vote are what Obama hasn't nailed down.
People don't get it, that Obama opened all those offices in Hispanic neighborhoods and states precisely because he wasn't getting current flow through the Chicano and Puerto Rican political leadership cadres. He's been trying to strap around them and hook directly into the Hispanic youth vote -- if he can get them to vote.
It ain't over, guys.
With a nod to Serpent Head:
"It's the Obama, stupid!"
The only way he wins is by fraud or by forfeit.
A very large number of Freepers are not in line with President Bush or Senator McCain. Heck, the only GOP candidates I ever voted for in the primaries were President Reagan and Senator Goldwater. That doesn’t mean that they and I will not be voting for Palin/McCain in the election.
The problem is “THE 60’s” have been so mythologized over the past decades by the left that for many many folks “60’s radical” is not a deal breaker. Of course this is a Stalinist airbrush of history but with an slumbering public and accomplice LSM it is working.
Our only hope is McCain directly confronts 0bama in the last debate. Ask O why he is allied for decades with a bomb throwing and 2001 flag standing terrorist. Then he must follow it up with a commercial blitz.
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