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Obama's "Radicalism" a Growing Chasm on Road to Victory
Townhall ^ | October 10, 2008 | Diana West

Posted on 10/09/2008 10:40:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: singfreedom
LOL. I have every intention of voting. I called my county registration office the other day to find out what is taking my absentee ballot so long to get to me. Found out that it was mailed October 2 (Hurricane Ike delayed and backlogged things a few days) and should be here any day now. Believe me, I will complete it and mail it back that very same day and it should get home in plenty of time for the election. No worries!

I'm just poking fun at the doom-and-gloomers who are trying to demoralize the voters here. And they probably don't realize I'm joking and are patting themselves on the back, thinking they've bagged another one for Obama.

No such luck. ;-)

41 posted on 10/10/2008 2:25:09 AM PDT by Allegra ( Go Sarah!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The whole world is going to hell in a handbasket!


42 posted on 10/10/2008 2:31:19 AM PDT by buffyt (Where am I going, and why am I in this handbasket??????)
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To: singfreedom
Every election I can remember, where polls were a factor, the Dem has had the lead position.

Oct 2004 CNN: Bush lead

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/special/polls/index.html

Not saying that means much except that CNN is no obscure poll, and at this time in the 2004 election they had Bush winning--and he did.

43 posted on 10/10/2008 2:38:39 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Atheist praying for a miracle :()
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To: Allegra

Whew, thank goodness! LOL! I REALLY couldn’t see you as the give up and die type, but sometime our “job” here at FReeRepublic is to encourage each other when we get discouraged! Which happens to all of us at one point or another.

YOU be safe, and GO, ALLEGRA-—one of my personal heroines!


44 posted on 10/10/2008 2:41:11 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Darkwolf377
how does that work if the candidate doesn't winDean Burch, Goldwater's GOP Chairman, was out of office in about 6 months. Of course it took longer in some other cases. (While he was chairman some folks called the RNC the 'Dean Burch Society')
45 posted on 10/10/2008 2:42:50 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Thanks for the information.

I had problems with him as a candidate (but imagine him debating Obama? wow!), but my pick for RNC chair would be Duncan Hunter.

46 posted on 10/10/2008 2:46:09 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Atheist praying for a miracle :()
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To: Darkwolf377

At this time I would prefer a technically proficient, nuts and bolts, organizer type Chairman, as opposed to a policy person, unless the chair is a figurehead with actual control with an organizer type. (By the way, McCain would still be the ‘nominal’ party leader, but that means nothing these days.) IMHO Sarah Palin would be the grassroots choice for favorite republican leader.


47 posted on 10/10/2008 3:01:14 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: Darkwolf377
I'm not as pessimistic. Racism is out there but its mostly on the democrat side( Our side does not need racism to dislike Obama). Time and time again the polls said “Obama” but we got “Hillary” instead. The enemy is hollering “racism” as loud as it is to try and shame its own side into voting Obama. Figure about 5% of liberals are saying “Obama” to the pollster's to appear enlightened but in the privacy of the booth will vote against him. This plus the tendency of the American voter to pick a split party government makes me believe we stand a good chance of winning.
48 posted on 10/10/2008 3:31:33 AM PDT by Nateman (You only need to fool half of them every 2 years.)
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To: Nateman
The enemy is hollering “racism” as loud as it is to try and shame its own side into voting Obama.

You make a lot of sense regarding the "truthiness" of the polls. The "Racist!" thing is really, really getting old--my only hope is that everyone else is getting as tired as I am by this being the response to every criticism of the guy. Does the average American realize this trap--that it's the ultimate Get Out of Jail Free card for Obama? "The economy sucks? Oh, what a racist you are, trying to blame the greed and the Bush economy on the black man." Zzzzzzzz...

49 posted on 10/10/2008 3:46:21 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377

They know they are not going to change any conservatives mind by yelling “Racism”. Instead they are going to label us “Racist” so that they can tell their own side “If you become racist you have gone over to the Republicans!” It’s really a tactic designed to keep their own racist bunch in line without having to confront them directly. Viewed in this light the republican = racist nonsense actually makes sense.


50 posted on 10/10/2008 4:14:11 AM PDT by Nateman (You only need to fool half of them every 2 years.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America will make me puke also, if it elects Obama.


51 posted on 10/10/2008 4:28:25 AM PDT by Ann Archy (AbortiDUH!!!on.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Writing at National Review Online, Andrew C. McCarthy pegged the significance of the Obama-Ayers connection: "Yes, Ayers is blunter than Obama. As he so delicately told the Times, America makes him `want to puke.' The smoother Obama is content to say our society needs fundamental `change.' But what they're talking about," he wrote, referring to their complementary visions, "is not materially different. Such sentiments should make Obama unelectable." Actually, such sentiments should make Obama radioactive. But ours is a culture of relativism in which one "belief system" is considered as valid as any other. Democracy? Marxism? Whatever! Lawful elections? Bombing the Pentagon? What's the difference? "

The question to Obama really should be, not just why he associated with such radical loonies as Ayers and Wright, but why wasn't he appalled and disgusted by their anti-American radicalism, class and racial hatred?

There is an element of moral relativism and "ends justify the means" in his answers to questions about these. As if it doesn't really matter if someone bombed their own country or engaged in domestic terrorism, as long as it was a few decades ago. "You know, everybody makes mistakes when they're young." There is a pattern of excusing and downplaying Far Left anti-American radicalism as just another lifestyle choice. "I know lots of people," he told Bill O'Reilly. "Ho, hum..." It doesn't matter if someone said "God damn America" or belonged to a Marxist Socialist party or, you know, set off a few bombs when they were in college. This kind of lack of seriousness, lack of judgment and responsibility doesn't belong in the White House of the United States of America.

52 posted on 10/10/2008 5:09:03 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Darkwolf377
Tee hee.

If the internals are cooked (and they are), of COURSE the maps are going to look bad.

Look at the ground game, look at reality.

Start with the Dem Primaries.

The superdelegates had to push Obambi across the finish line, against Hillary, *AFTER* he had an almost insurmountable lead in delegates.

He won mostly in "caucus" states where his loud "in your face" supporters could dominate things: in secret ballot states he got *trounced*.

Also he had trouble in places like Pennsylvania and California in the Primaries.

Then there's operation Chaos, when people registered Dem in large numbers, who are (Rush listeners!) NOT going for Bambi no matter what.

Then there are the PUMAs -- one PUMA site estimated five million PUMA votes (normally Dem) going for McCain nationally.

Remember, last couple of elections have been (maybe) 51%-49%. The internals of the polls are giving the Dems anything from a 9% to a 14% headstart -- and still Bambi is up by single digits?

This is not the makings of a landslide groundswell: that was deflated by Sarah Palin's "Styrofoam columns going back to some Hollywood lot" line during the convention.

Look at Obama's crowds, and Biden's. All the TV shots of Bambi are close shots of the stage; when you look at the people behind him, they are staged extras -- no enthusiasm, no joy: and often (watch for it) row after row of identical union thug T-shirts. Bussed in on orders. And the close-ups of the stage are to try to hide the small numbers.

Biden is drawing -- zilch. That is not the sign of a groundswell.

Compare that to the Pubbies. We are getting reports of site after site filled past capacity, with venues of 10,000 people attracting crowds of 20,000 or more. Without a massive TV push (God knows the press despises Sarah and would not lift a finger if she were drowning).

So those crowds ARE word of mouth.

Finally, look at the TV.

The Dem spinmeisters are all crying "landslide Obama" -- if he carries all of these in-play states and takes North Carolina, Florida, Ohio.

Democrats engage projection.

If Bambi were ahead, you would not hear -- think, don't absorb like a sheep!!! -- cries of racism, ridiculous accusations of "kill him" and "terrorist" happening at the GOP crowds. Sarah is a HAPPY person, so are her speeches. I have attended one, so have other FReepers.

Hint: Dems engage in projection, look at the videos of the "Obama youth" and other such.

Look at Carville darkly promising race riots if Obama loses.

Hint: did anyone ever speak of such a thing during Reagan's 1984 race. That *was* a landslide.

Finally, look at Obambi buying a half-hour of airtime on Oct. 29.

If he were up by 11 points, he wouldn't be doing that.

And if he were up by 11 points, the Dem talking heads would be crowing about HIS coattails, and how he would have 62 votes in the Senate and 2/3 of the house.

Not. A. Peep.

Compare what the Dems have been like when they have been cruising to a victory, to what they have been like this campaign.

You can feel it in the air.

...postscript.

The Feds and the states are ALL OVER ACORN. They won't be getting their "thug thizzle" this campaign: and the supposed wave of early voting fraud in Ohio for Obambi. Ain't happening, unless by absentee: which can be checked and challenged. And the shill, whore, and (in my mind) guilty of treason SecState of Ohio, just got bitch slapped by a federal court. If she tries it again, the same lawyers who won Florida for Bush in 2000 will have her for lunch in any aftermath.

Cheers! Cheers!

53 posted on 10/10/2008 5:09:04 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The idea that people need not be personally responsible for their actions, that it doesn't matter if they did or said terrible things, combined with a grandiose sense of entitlement, is a characteristic of some people who grew up without fathers in the house or who were pampered by a liberal social system and affirmative action in education which passes on this sense of entitlement without merit or responsibility. It's the sign of someone who doesn't respect authority. He sympathizes with the terrorist, the radical, and the anti-American race-baiting preacher because he shares some of their point of view. If pressed on Ayers, you could expect, "Well, you have to understand what the Weather Underground was up against in the 1960s and the Vietnam era, an evil white power structure of oppression and greed..." Wright's sermon on the "white man's greed" makes it into his autobiography Dreams from My Father and is clearly a driving force in his political vision and associations, from his membership in the socialist New Party, to the 20 years under Rev. Wright, to the Philadelphia Speech, to his planned tax policies.
54 posted on 10/10/2008 5:19:16 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His middle school and High School years in Hawaii were mentored by Frank Marshall Davis, a communist USA party member. No one seems to talk about that very important fact. Being mentored in his very formative and abandoned by his father years by a communist party leader makes it possible later in life to pal around with the likes of Ayers, Rezko, and (he is no reverend) Wright.


55 posted on 10/10/2008 7:30:08 AM PDT by thirst4truth
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To: Darkwolf377

I want FR to help win this election.

Dig?


56 posted on 10/10/2008 7:56:09 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares
Yes--we win by telling the truth.

If you have to lie to win, you don't deserve to win.

Dig?

57 posted on 10/10/2008 9:27:27 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: grey_whiskers
If the internals are cooked (and they are), of COURSE the maps are going to look bad.

That's a great post, but come on--"The internals are cooked!" is the cry of the person who knows his side is losing and doesn't like it.

Please--we ALL know all about internals around here. Please respect my intelligence, and I'll respect yours.

If I were only looking at polls with lopsided samples, I sure wouldn't feel the way I do now.

58 posted on 10/10/2008 9:35:17 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: grey_whiskers
The Feds and the states are ALL OVER ACORN.

I know, I know. But the economy is going to crash like a wave over this election. And when I heard McCain's comments about Obama, and the "Palin found guilty" thing...

It's not impossible, but it sure will be a surprise to me if McCain wins.

59 posted on 10/10/2008 9:36:32 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377

Your already decided it’s lost.
You cannot see a win you said.

You have kneeled before the MSM polling gods and given them that power.

I will not kneel.


60 posted on 10/10/2008 9:39:01 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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