Posted on 10/09/2008 12:10:06 AM PDT by neverdem
TOWNHALL.com: Washington - "PALIN vs. BIDEN" by Emmett Tyrrell (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "How is it that an attractive woman who has been involved in state and local government since the early 1990s without much controversy is passed off in the media now as an airhead? Yet her opponent -- long known as an airhead, a braggart and even a plagiarist -- now is passed off as a statesman? I have in mind Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska and Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware or Scranton, Pa., or wherever he now claims to hail from.") (October 9, 2008)
Forget the book.....the POEM.....the POEM...OMG!
Get a grip!!1 JFK didn’t write his book either.....NOT ONE of Obama’s supporters would care if he KILLED someone.
I think this is quite a stretch.
Cashill comes up with some doozies
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance . . .
Ever the wordsmith.....Barama gets "figgy" with it.
Under water grottos, on the Chatahoochee
Filled with Goobers
That eat peanuts.
Stepping on the peanuts
That the Goobers
Eat, they crunch.
The Goobers howl, bare
Their fangs, dance . . .
“Jimmuh”
SO!! The battle IS NOT, REPEAT, IS NOT for the hard core Obama supporters but for the mushy middle and they WOULD care.
I suspect that Ayers did ghostwrite it, but it’s also, as another writer points out in an article posted today, heavily based on Ralph Ellison’s “Invisible Man,” particularly with regard to certain characters and episodes. It is clearly the basis for Ayers/Obama’s attitudes towards whites and the supposed white hegemony. Ayers, who is older than Obama, is from a leftist generation that loved Invisible Man and regarded it as the an explanation of the true essence of “blackness.”
Ayers would also have been a fan of Frantz Fanon, who was very popular at that time among leftists. Fanon was from Martinique and of mixed white and black parentage, and rejects his “white half” and becomes a black-nationalist theorist of race, colonialism, Marxism and violent revolution. He was very involved with the Algerian troubles and became a Muslim at some point. I don’t think Barry is old enough to have been a follower of Fanon (although he might have known of him through Frank Davis, the unabashed communist “mentor” of his youth), but Ayers certainly would have been, and Obama’s supposed opus certainly reflects Fanon’s beliefs about colonialism and “whiteness” in a way that a 60’s white radical like Ayers would have expressed them.
Bump.
http://www.amazon.com/Author-Literary-Detective-Don-Foster/dp/0805068120/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1223552820&sr=8-1
"This fascinating book describes how an English professor became a detective, sort of. Don Foster still teaches literature at Vassar College, but he's recognized as an expert in attributional theory--the idea that everybody has literary fingerprints, or, as he puts it, "no two individuals write exactly the same way, using the same words in the same combinations, or with the same patterns of spelling and punctuation." Foster is now an expert at identifying anonymous authors."
Thanks for posting. Good article.
They've discussed and admired this book in their monthly book club meetings.
Best article of the day. I hope there is continued interest in getting to the bottom of this.
Has anyone asked Obama about writing the book and what was his response?
Even if Ayers did not have a hand in Obamas book, it puts Obama on the spot. Was Obama that well versed with Ayers books that he borrowed the same phrases? Or did he pal around so much with Ayers that Ayers phraseology rubbed off on him.
And if indeed, Ayers was actually the ghostwriter of the book, then that reveals one (or both) of two things: Ayers and Obama spent a LOT of time together (you cant ghostwrite a book without extensive interviews) and Obama did not credit Ayers with it because he knew Ayers past (which he has denied) and felt that acknowledgement of Ayers involvement in the book would discredit The One.
bttt
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.
~~Marcus Tullius Cicero
There are some computer programs that will analyze a piece of writing using vocabulary, word frequency, and other things. When one piece is compared to another, one can see to a high degree of certainty whether both were written by the same author. It would be interesting to compare Obama’s books with each other and then compare them to the writings of Ayers.
Thought you might find this interesting. Ping.
It would be another decade before Obama had anything in print and this an edited, unsigned student case comment in the Harvard Law Review unearthed by Politico. Attorneys who reviewed the piece for Politico described it as "a fairly standard example of the genre."
I served on the law review when I went to law school many years ago. A case comment, even if if carried the "author's" name, was so heavily edited, at multiple levels, that it hardly ever reflected the author's own writing style.
n my time the student writer would be assigned an editor who would heavily edit the writer's piece, often rewriting many parts of it. The case comment to go through several rewrites before it even got on to the next editing level. Then it would go to "quads" where four copies of the heavily edited document would be produced and sent to four higher level editors for their editing. After this massive committee had produced a semi-final, thoroughly homogenized, product, it would then be reviewed by a faculty adviser, who'd put in his ideas, resulting in the final product, a product that had been scrubbed of the author's individual style. Hence, from my direct personal experience, Obama's case comment could not be used as an example of his writing style. Thus, some other writing that was really his, like a senior thesis, written with the assistance of one or two faculty advisers, would be essential to get an idea of the kind of writer Obama actually was. That's what makes his refusal to reveal any of his academic work so significant. It would give a very good idea of what his style and abilities were, a revelation far more telling than any radical ideas he might have expressed in such writing. Those samples would show if he had any of the extraordinary polish shown in "his" books. If they didn't show it, then the compelling question would be how did he make the leap without a ghost writer. If he actually used a ghost writer, it would be no big deal, since nearly all politicians do, unless Bill Ayers was that ghost writer.
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