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A move to secede on California-Oregon border
SF Chronicle ^ | Oct. 5, 2008 | Kevin Fagan

Posted on 10/06/2008 8:03:23 AM PDT by AuntB

Siskiyou County -- Some folks around here think the economic sky is falling and state lawmakers in Sacramento and Salem are ignoring their constituents in the hinterlands.

"We have nothing in common with you people down south. Nothing," said Randy Bashaw, manager of the Jefferson State Forest Products ...."The sooner we're done with all you people, the better."

Talking about secession has been a quasi-joking conversational saw since 1941, when five counties in the area started things by actually declaring themselves - briefly - to be the state of Jefferson. But now, with the economy in trouble and unemployment soaring, the idea of greater independence is getting its most serious consideration since World War II.

Locals complain that federal and state regulators have hampered the fishing and timber industries to protect forestlands and endangered species such as sucker fish and the spotted owl. Most water from the rainy Shasta region is shipped south, with little economic benefit to the area. Even the California sales tax draws sneers.

The Grange Hall of Yreka... is activating 51 of its brethren halls in the area to collect 1 million signatures to have a statehood advisory measure put on the California ballot. Tony Intiso, a runoff candidate in the Nov. 4 election for Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors, has pledged to force the issue and is running campaign ads calling for regional freedom.

"It's not rocket science to see why it makes sense, and how we could do it," said Brian Petersen, a landscaper who runs the main online forum advocating statehood, www.jeffersonstate.com. "The capitols of California and Oregon ignore us. We want out.

"All we have to do is get an initiative on the ballot and vote to get things going."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; oregon; secede; stateofjefferson
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1 posted on 10/06/2008 8:03:23 AM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

Let ‘em do it.


2 posted on 10/06/2008 8:04:45 AM PDT by Ravi
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To: AuntB

I remember when The Florida Keys wanted to dclare The Conch Republic. If they do it again I am sailin down there to join up.


3 posted on 10/06/2008 8:06:12 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: Travis McGee
EFAD #2 ping. Sound familiar? Maybe they're reading the book?
4 posted on 10/06/2008 8:06:31 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: AuntB

I would love to see Western Jersey split from Jersey. We are solidly conservative.


5 posted on 10/06/2008 8:06:35 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Bradley Effect vs. Voter Fraud. Game on.)
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To: Ravi; blackie; redrock; Jeff Head; marsh2; forester; SierraWasp; Issaquahking; Liz; calcowgirl; ...

Full article and photos and contacts here:

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/


6 posted on 10/06/2008 8:06:55 AM PDT by AuntB ( "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: AuntB

This topic comes up in Texas from time to time. More often then not its a frustration reaction to the incompetency in DC.


7 posted on 10/06/2008 8:08:21 AM PDT by Doug TX
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To: MattinNJ
Give Phildelphia to New New Jersey and Western Jersey to Pennsylvania

And why we are at it

How about

8 posted on 10/06/2008 8:10:27 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: AuntB

It will go nowhere, but I can’t blame them from wanting to dump CA and OR. The same movement that Eastern WA and Eastern Or folks have wanted to do unshackle themselves from the commies on Olympia and Salem


9 posted on 10/06/2008 8:10:31 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: AuntB

I keep hoping Orange, San Diego, Riverside, and San Bernardino counties will do the same thing!


10 posted on 10/06/2008 8:10:35 AM PDT by lazypadawan
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To: AuntB

11 posted on 10/06/2008 8:10:43 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: AuntB

I think this is a good idea. California should be broken up.


12 posted on 10/06/2008 8:11:03 AM PDT by Maelstorm (This country was not founded with the battle cry "Give me liberty or give me a government check!")
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To: AuntB
...."The sooner we're done with all you people, the better."

Any guesses as to how long it would take for this new 'state' to turn to Washington for financial aid?
13 posted on 10/06/2008 8:11:13 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic ("And how can this be? For I am the Kwisatz Haderach! " - Barack Obama)
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To: AuntB
As some who lives in California the people in Sacramento act as if California is the San Francisco/Oakland Bay area to Sacramento.

The rest of the state is nothing to worry about.
That includes representatives from the rest of the state who act like that..

14 posted on 10/06/2008 8:11:23 AM PDT by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: Doug TX

This has been a long standing issue. We are the people of sucker fish fame, where the feds shut off the water to farmers, we’ve had it.

Portland dictates to us what to do with our land, our money and our lives. Portlandites are basically morons, just like the morons in Sacramento.


15 posted on 10/06/2008 8:11:53 AM PDT by rlferny
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To: AuntB

Every once in awhile eastern Washington, northern Idaho and western Montana want to secede and join together to create a new state. Sadly, it never goes anywhere beyond the ‘wouldn’t it be nice if we did this’ stage.


16 posted on 10/06/2008 8:13:19 AM PDT by teacherwoes ("It is vain to expect a well-balanced government without a well-balanced society" -Gideon Welles)
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To: AuntB

I would be quite happy if San Diego county could become Western Arizona thank you.


17 posted on 10/06/2008 8:15:42 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: teacherwoes

Well, if DC can become a state (as is possible if Obama is elected), then there is no reason for other regions not to consider altering their current status. . .


18 posted on 10/06/2008 8:17:33 AM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: AuntB; SmithL; NormsRevenge
"We have nothing in common with you people down south. Nothing," said Randy Bashaw, manager of the Jefferson State Forest Products ...."The sooner we're done with all you people, the better."

Oh, come now. I'm sure there'th loth of fabulouthneth up there.

19 posted on 10/06/2008 8:18:23 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Names Ash Housewares
I would be quite happy if San Diego county could become Western Arizona thank you.

George Strait could finally get his ocean-front property in Arizona.

20 posted on 10/06/2008 8:18:37 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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