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Democrats To Raise McCain Associations To Keating, Others (Singlaub)
Marc Ambinder ^ | 10-5-08

Posted on 10/05/2008 11:14:28 PM PDT by STARWISE

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To: wac3rd
I may get in trouble with some Freepers, but secretly I believe most conservatives are pulling for McCain with the perverse thought (which was raised in the VP debate) that the old Navy pilot passes away and we have a person who will not back off logic and will fight for “us” not the jackass Liberals.

I understand what you mean, and I am one of those who wasn't going to vote for McCain before Palin came along, however, I don't wish harm on him. This will make her poised in 4 years, though. I am excited about that.

41 posted on 10/06/2008 12:40:31 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: padre35
We have a plan to capitialize on any approval drops for Obama. 3. What sort of actions are initiated after a Gov Palin Rally, are volunteers signing up? Do Republican Registrations move upwards? I adore the fact that Obamao is jealous of Gov Palin’s crowds, but are they accomplishing anything?

I get queasy with the lovefest going on for Palin because it's a bit indulgent--people seem to really get off on the Palin love, but it's all so celebrity-oriented (people were urging her to go on Saturday Night Live, fer pete's sake). We know all the celeb stuff about her--she has that in spades, we need to see her as hard-hitting and ready to lead. She isn't, IMHO, though she's far more ready than Obama.

I know it's late in the game for this, but I think I'm still astonished Obama has gone ANYWHERE. He's so clearly unfit for the job. I may be the only person who saw Al Gore's support at the convention as a watershed of lunacy--sure, Gore is a phony, but I always thought in his warped mind he thought he was doing good for the country. How anyone with an IQ higher than a green bean can claim this guy is ready to lead is beyond me.

I cringe when I see more Palin "soft" news around here, and was gratified to see she's getting dissed in the press for having the gall to say something substantive about Obama. I think the press are rushing in to douse a fire with her comments about Obama and terrorists, and that actually gives me hope--they'll be so hysterical with denials that people will be curious.

42 posted on 10/06/2008 12:42:01 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: Darkwolf377
Oh please, if the polls were going the other way you’d be mocking the Obama people because it’s over. No Pollyanna crap—if you think polls don’t indicate the trend against our side, you’re dreamin’.

No, I would not be saying that if it were on the other foot because i know enough about past elections that polls are truly just snapshots in time, and anything can happen. You're the one who said "it is over." If you think a race is over based on early October polls, you're the one who is dreaming.

43 posted on 10/06/2008 12:42:49 AM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: Darkwolf377

Well IMO a part of the reason for the lovefest is because after 18 months of Obama Fellatio in the Media, it is comforting to have someone to rally around.

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There is a deep seated disatisfaction with the Bush Yrs out in Real America, never underestimate it, it is powerful and drives people to support Obamao, and the Bailout was incredibly harmful for McCain, “champion of busting pork spending now votes 850 billion to bailout Wall Street”

Ouch..no one holds Obama accountable “we” hold our guys accountable..

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And that, whether Gov Palin can transform the narrative, is the 64 Billion dollar question, the huge crowds bring media coverage, now what she says MUST make an impact, she MUST capture both headlines and news cycles to pull this tickets chestnuts out of the fire.

Basically she must attack at least as effective as Hillary did, and she must force Obama to respond to those attacks.

And in a ray of solid hope Darkwolf, if there is to be a poll bounce from the VP Debate, it should start hitting soon...

We have some ducks on the pond still.


44 posted on 10/06/2008 12:52:54 AM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Chet 99
You're the one who said "it is over." If you think a race is over based on early October polls, you're the one who is dreaming.

I suggest you do a thorough check on the polls of past elections--thorough, not just picking and choosing.

No need to respond--if you do the check, you'll have your answer as to how accurate a snapshot polls are one month before an election.

45 posted on 10/06/2008 12:56:44 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: Darkwolf377

You mean like the October polls that had Bush up over Gore by 6 to 8 points? Or the October polls that had Clinton leading Dole by 24 points? Or those October polls that had Reagan and Carter “too close to call”? Or those October polls showing Carter with huge leads over Fords. Same for Nixon over Humphrey?


46 posted on 10/06/2008 1:06:36 AM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: Chet 99
You mean like the October polls that had Bush up over Gore by 6 to 8 points? Or the October polls that had Clinton leading Dole by 24 points? Or those October polls that had Reagan and Carter “too close to call”? Or those October polls showing Carter with huge leads over Fords. Same for Nixon over Humphrey?

Like the October polls that had Bush over Kerry by one or two points?

Sunday, October 24, 2004 Email to a FriendAdvertisementIn the latest Rasmussen Reports full week's polling sample, President George W. Bush holds a two percentage point lead over Senator Kerry. For the week ending Thursday, October 14, Bush has 48.5% of the vote and Kerry has 46.5%.

Or the October polls that had Bush over Gore by a point or two?

CNN poll: Bush, Gore tied at 45 percent Debates could break candidates' polling deadlock By CNN Polling Director Keating Holland

As I said--pick and choose if you want to. I'm interested in reality, and if you really think McCain is ahead, or gaining strength, go right ahead. I'm not interested in changing anyone's mind who just wants to live in a dream world.

47 posted on 10/06/2008 1:23:03 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: Chet 99
I've noticed that when the "it's over" crowd is called out, they tend to get quite angry and defensive.

The fact is so simple. It's not "over" until the last polls close on November 4th and yet, there are quite a few declaring it "over" a month in advance.

Gotta wonder about the motive there. Will they be gloating if The One should win this? ;-)

48 posted on 10/06/2008 1:41:26 AM PDT by Allegra ( Go Sarah!)
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To: wac3rd

I was surprised when there wasn’t a riot in Vegas when OJ was sentenced, but I agree with you, I fear we are in for some tough times over the next few months.

I also expect riots, expecially if Obama loses, but I also don’t think we are going to know for sure who our President is for quite some time after the election and I fear those days are going to be very scarry.


49 posted on 10/06/2008 1:55:06 AM PDT by Hanna548
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To: Darkwolf377

You’re cherry picking. You’re cherry picking to reinforce your great hope that McCain will lose.


50 posted on 10/06/2008 2:10:10 AM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: Allegra

The “it is over” crowd is tiresome. It is one thing to acknowledge we’re down, and we have a tough fight ahead (which is true).. but to simply declare it is over?

So why bother with a campaign? Why even bother to come on the Free Republic to discuss the race when you’ve already decided it is over?


51 posted on 10/06/2008 2:13:00 AM PDT by Chet 99 (Vote McCain/Palin, or this will be our future: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTb5EFZmgbs)
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To: Chet 99
You’re cherry picking. You’re cherry picking to reinforce your great hope that McCain will lose.

No, I don't hope McCain will lose--nice of you to try to smear me because I called you on YOUR cherry picking.

I am interested in truth; you are interested in fantasy. And when someone doesn't agree, you smear them as wanting our side to lose.

Sorry to bother your infantile fantasizing, go back to sleep.

52 posted on 10/06/2008 2:14:49 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (I've got a bracelet, too. From Sergeant..... uuuuuuuhhhhhhh...)
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To: Allegra
It didn't take them long to start screaming "racism," did it?

The "racism" thing is going to help us more than anyone can imagine.

People are going to think about whether they want to hear this charge every time something's bent out of whack in this nation the next 4-8 years.

I'm looking for maximum blowback on this, and preparing for the riots that follow.

53 posted on 10/06/2008 2:29:31 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Chet 99
The “it is over” crowd is tiresome. It is one thing to acknowledge we’re down, and we have a tough fight ahead (which is true).. but to simply declare it is over?

They remind me of the same "it's over" crowd we dealt with on FR regarding Iraq in '05 and '06.

A lot of them got quite nasty and belligerent with me, told me I was "dreaming," was a "pollyanna," and much worse when I advised them not to believe the media, prgress was occurring, that patience was required and that this was going to work.

Not a one of them has been big enough to come to me now and admit they were wrong or apologize for their boorish behavior.

About the same sort of response I'd expect from...say, Harry Reid. ;-)

54 posted on 10/06/2008 2:30:41 AM PDT by Allegra ( Go Sarah!)
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To: STARWISE
Tough to label McCain a racist, he has a daughter that has darker skin than Obama.

I say bring it all on, Obama will lose this one badly, perhaps badly enough to send him packing.

55 posted on 10/06/2008 3:38:36 AM PDT by jwalsh07 (MSM Lied, Journalism Died. RIP 2008)
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To: word_warrior_bob

Just saw the video on Cross Action News and on Facebook


56 posted on 10/06/2008 3:58:58 AM PDT by Victory111
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To: Allegra
America and Free Republic have changed... Not all... but enough that both are in jeopardy.

LLS

57 posted on 10/06/2008 4:31:29 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (GOD, Country, Family... except when it comes to dims!)
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To: STARWISE
Begala noted that McCain once "sat on the board of a very right wing organization," the U.S. Council for World Freedom, led by a retired Army Maj. General named John Singlaub.

Did anyone on the board bomb the United States?

I didn't think so.

58 posted on 10/06/2008 4:31:44 AM PDT by alnick
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To: babyfreep
This will make her poised in 4 years

Has McCain given any indication at all that he intends to serve only one term? If not, then Palin will be running for VP again in four years. She'll run for POTUS in 8.

59 posted on 10/06/2008 4:43:03 AM PDT by alnick
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To: word_warrior_bob

Please send it to them, and Rush, Levin and O’Reilly.

Drudge has an anonymous tips email spot .. lower right of
his website.

I’m so glad it’s in Breaking News here now. It’s a frightening piece.


60 posted on 10/06/2008 8:25:23 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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