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ATF goes against Second Amendment
The Times Tribune ^ | 29 Sept, 2008 | Butch Housman

Posted on 09/30/2008 4:45:18 AM PDT by marktwain

My name is Butch Housman. Months ago I wrote a letter to the editor of this newspaper. As a result, Federal Agent Thomas Chittum asked to move the trial of my friends Leonard and Tom Elliott to Frankfort and cited my letter as cause, claiming I had “polluted the jury pool.” I was named specifically before the court and was criticized for questioning both the mission of his agency, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives, and in particular his case against the Bacon Creek Gun Shop. I didn’t realize I was such an influential scribe.

In light of the intimidating nature of the entire ordeal, Tom Elliott asked me not to write any more letters until after the trial. Wednesday he released me from that promise.

Now that my freedom of speech has been reclaimed, I would like to address Special Agent Thomas Chittum and anyone else who might be interested. I most definitely did question both the mission of your agency and your case against the Elliotts. I feel I was in good company, as the Supreme Court of the United States was also considering the landmark case District of Columbia vs. Heller at that time. A lot of folks were questioning all these gun laws we suffer under and how that could be considering the “... shall not be infringed” portion of the Second Amendment, the highest law of our land.

As far as your case against the Elliotts, after knowing them and doing business with them for over 30 years, any legal action against them that might result in their incarceration would have to be highly suspect in my mind. These people did not deserve to go to jail. I felt that was the solid truth.

I have made a number of statements, both public and private, disparaging the ATF. I would like to clarify these. As federal agencies go, I rank the ATF at the very bottom of the barrel mainly because its “mission” flies directly in the face of one of our inalienable rights as set forth in the Second Amendment. It’s not so much about firearms as it is about every creature’s right to offer up a physical defense, individually and collectively, in the event of physical attack. That’s simple stuff. Every person, every country, every little mouse in a corner can be expected to try and defend itself. Slaves, prisoners and beasts broke to harness are the ones who are prohibited from fighting back in their own defense. In these modern times, firearms are the most useful tools of defense. Tomorrow it may be ray guns ... or perhaps stones, but in any case everyone has the right to reach down and pick one up. Through the years, the ATF has shown a consistent pattern of pressing for more restrictive gun legislation and stricter interpretation of existing laws. Your mission is unworthy of the American ideal and your agency should be folded up and sent home.

As for the individuals employed by the ATF, that is sometimes a different story. The ATF was not always what it is now. Once upon a time, a federal firearms license cost about $5 and was easily obtainable. The paperwork requirements were minimal, inspections were non-intrusive and it was a useful way for law enforcement to get a handle on guns so as to trace ones used in crimes back to their owners.

If the government really wanted to do something constructive, they would return to that approach. There were many old timers working for the ATF who had their heads screwed on straight and who were pro-gun, pro-Second Amendment types. I have two friends, both retired from the ATF, who are fine fellows. One in particular dedicated a good part of his life to youth firearms safety training in the 4H. He was a man of the highest “caliber.” No doubt, there are still people working for the ATF who are reputable, but the agency’s whole mission and focus has been so turned against the citizens of the United States that I have little respect for what it’s now doing.

So Agent Chittum, while I wish you the best of luck in your personal life as well as personal safety in the low down lyin’, cheatin’ stuff you do for the government ... I wish you no success in your efforts to undermine the Constitution. The not guilty verdict for Tom and Leonard Elliott was music to my ears. Well done, jury!

I would like to close with this quote from Thomas Jefferson — “The Constitutions of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.”

God Bless America.

Butch Housman, Corbin


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Or, just don’t live in IL...


41 posted on 09/30/2008 4:01:06 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: DoughtyOne

“The BATF should be disolved, at the very least it’s management forbidden to work in law enforcement in the future.”

I’d be satisfied if they confined their activities to their constitutional jurisdiction. Let them tax and enforce gun laws at the borders and on federal property.


42 posted on 09/30/2008 4:03:49 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: marktwain

Marker


43 posted on 09/30/2008 4:12:03 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Pray for our side!)
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To: SecAmndmt

I think your response was logical. It’s just that when an agency loses it’s way this badly, I don’t buy into the idea it can restrain itself in the future. The mindset is so screwed up, I honestly don’t want these folks anywhere near law enforcement again.


44 posted on 09/30/2008 4:53:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (McCain, the Ipecac president... Obama the strychnine president...)
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To: marktwain

btt


45 posted on 09/30/2008 5:23:52 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: shadeaud
Abolish the ATF would mean Janet Reno would have to remove those pictures of Elian Gonzales's "rescue" from her wall of fame and the "liberation" of the Branch Divides next to them.

Shoot, if that's all that's standing in the way, I'd be more than happy to stipulate that she can keep them. Don't forget, too, that Waco was an FBI operation too, so those photos probably aren't in jeopardy anyway.

46 posted on 09/30/2008 5:37:56 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: webboy45
I always thought that ATF stood for automatic transmission fluid.

Well, that's the useful ATF.

47 posted on 09/30/2008 5:41:24 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: marktwain
. The paperwork requirements were minimal, inspections were non-intrusive and it was a useful way for law enforcement to get a handle on guns so as to trace ones used in crimes back to their owners.

Actually to the last legal owners, and often merely the last person to buy it from a federally licensed dealer, who in many cases might also be the only legal owner.

48 posted on 09/30/2008 5:46:49 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: shadeaud
Abolish the ATF would mean Janet Reno would have to remove those pictures of Elian Gonzales's ‘’rescue’’ from her wall of fame and the ‘’liberation’’ of the Branch Divides next to them.

BATF had nothing do with the Gonzales snatching. That was INS agents. The BATF did conduct the initial "Showtime" raid on the Davidians, but it was the FBI who conducted the siege and "Final Assault" on their "compound".

49 posted on 09/30/2008 5:49:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

I was thinking that about the Gonzales snatching. Just assumed I remembered wrong.


50 posted on 09/30/2008 5:54:23 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Tarantulas

And your reason for that comment would be...?


51 posted on 09/30/2008 6:32:37 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: festus

BATFags is the preferred term, part of F Troop.


52 posted on 09/30/2008 6:36:51 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: SecAmndmt

OK, so it was the only thing I could think of.


53 posted on 09/30/2008 7:10:27 PM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.)
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To: Charles Martel
Quit trying to find "Public Enemy Number One" behind every gunshop sales counter.

*THIS* is the real reason that batfe is the way it is. Illegal booze, and illegal smokes? Then you're dealing with *real* criminals, who are apt to shoot at you. Law abiding gun/gunshop owners, on the other hand, until recently have not. If the "brave and loyal" agents of the batfe aren't willing to go against moonshiners and mobsters, then its time to disband them...

the infowarrior

54 posted on 09/30/2008 9:15:22 PM PDT by infowarrior (“Let the voters decide if Palin is laughable.”-Tublecane)
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To: Charles Martel
Quit trying to find "Public Enemy Number One" behind every gunshop sales counter.

Remember, the first goal of every bureaucracy is self preservation. If they didn't hassle innocent civilians they would have t risk their lives going after real criminals.

55 posted on 09/30/2008 10:42:12 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Illegal Immigration is not about the immigration. Gun control is not about the guns.)
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To: marktwain

Abolish the ATF


56 posted on 09/30/2008 11:14:47 PM PDT by wastedyears (Now sadly living in the DPRNYC [Brooklyn])
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To: marktwain

“ATF goes against the Second Amendment.”

Dog bites man. The ATF has been an unprofessional and rogue agency for decades. If and when the ATF ever goes FOR the Second Amendment, it’ll be newsworthy.


57 posted on 10/01/2008 1:23:56 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; wku man; SLB; ..
Butch Housman sure has guts, you've got to give him that. And a great faith in the Rule of Law, particulary in light of his willingness to confront a rogue agency to whom the law is typically applied only to the serfs.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

58 posted on 10/01/2008 5:32:58 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Tarantulas
“Butch, next time try decaf. Sheesh.”

I wonder what brought that on? Personally, I thought he was quite restrained. I've been calling the ATF “traitorous bastards” since about 1971.

59 posted on 10/01/2008 5:49:17 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: tacticalogic
Can anyone provide an example of any federal agency who's actions and policies support the Second Amendment?
The Civilian Marksmanship Program?
60 posted on 10/01/2008 5:55:32 AM PDT by jdege
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