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Uncharacteristically low turnout for Barack Obama rally in Green Bay, Wisc.
Chicago Sun Times ^

Posted on 09/22/2008 1:04:45 PM PDT by Chet 99

Uncharacteristically low turnout for Barack Obama rally in Green Bay, Wisc.

McCain/Palin drew 4,000 more supporters at same venue a week ago

September 22, 2008

BY ABDON M. PALLASCH Staff Reporter

GREEN BAY, Wis. — Hoping to shore up support in his suddenly undependable backyard, Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama flew here Monday to talk about how he’d handle economic crises as president.

Recent polls have shown that Wisconsin — once pretty solidly in Obama’s column — is now a statistical dead heat between Obama and Republican John McCain.

“You all know that you hold this election in your hands,” Sen. Russ Feingold, a Democrat who said he worked on ethics legislation with Obama, told a crowd of about 6,000 cheering Obama fans in the arena next to Lambeau Field. “We just barely won this state for Al Gore in 2000 and we just barely won this state for John Kerry in 2004.”

The numbers in Wisconsin and Minnesota are getting close enough that the Obama campaign closed its 11 campaign offices in North Dakota and moved the 50 staffers there to these two states.

Just a week ago, John McCain and his vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin — who can bring out crowds the way Obama can — appeared in this same stadium, Resch Center, to a crowd of 10,000 fans. There were an uncharacteristic amount of empty orange seats for Obama’s rally.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2008; crowds; democrats; electionpresident; elections; greenbay; liars; mccainpalin; nobama08; obama; obamabiden; obamabots; rally; sendintheclowns; swingstates; wi2008
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To: word_warrior_bob

If I wanted to hear a Marxist speak I would just attend class at the local university.


21 posted on 09/22/2008 1:15:46 PM PDT by Radl (rtr)
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To: Chet 99

Must be the cold weather...


22 posted on 09/22/2008 1:16:07 PM PDT by usmcobra (A vote for McCain & Palin is a vote against Obama bin Biden)
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To: Chet 99
Just a week ago, John McCain and his vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin — who can bring out crowds the way Obama can — appeared in this same stadium, Resch Center, to a crowd of 10,000 fans.

So McCuda drew almost double the crowd as Emperor Zero? Sweet.

23 posted on 09/22/2008 1:16:29 PM PDT by LikeLight (http://www.believersguidetolegalissues.com)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Is it just me, or does it seem like there are a lot of polls recently which suggest Obama is rebounding, yet the anecdotal and other evidences “on the ground” suggest just the opposite?

No, not just you, I've noticed that too! I think the MSM and the pollsters are cooking the results!

24 posted on 09/22/2008 1:16:32 PM PDT by blondee123 (Vote for the HERO, not the ZERO! Is PRESENT a vote???)
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To: Chet 99
told a crowd of about 6,000 cheering Obama fans in the arena next to Lambeau Field.

Dudes, this was Monday morning after the Packers got spanked by the Cowboys on Sunday night. Those were just the left over drunks that slept it off in the parking lot, crying themselves to sleep.

Brett, why hast thou foresaken them?

25 posted on 09/22/2008 1:16:57 PM PDT by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Chet 99
Shoe's on the other foot with Palin in the race.



HOW THE PALIN PICK TRUMPS OBAMA-BIDEN

26 posted on 09/22/2008 1:17:33 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Chet 99

Crowds don’t mean anything, does anyone remember Obama in Pennsyvania when he lost to Clinton?


27 posted on 09/22/2008 1:18:31 PM PDT by bahblahbah (http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/2008/09/06/palin-rumors/)
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To: Soliton
All of these stories that have come out about racists not voting for Obama has given lefty pollsters cover to inflate his performance in the polls. When they are off by 6% it will be said that it is the Bradley effect.

I've wondered about that. It strikes me that Obama started going up right around the time that the latest series of "only racists vote against Obama" stories started breaking last week. I suspect that there may actually BE a Tom Bradley effect going on, once generated by the MSM itself. Tell people they are racists if they don't support Obama, which encourages a certain fraction to tell the pollsters that they're voting Obama when in fact they have no such intention. MSM gets to blame the effect, as you say, when it backfires on them, but also helps to generate a secondary enthusiasm for Obama since it temporarily makes him look like he's rebounding more than he really is (if at all).

28 posted on 09/22/2008 1:19:45 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Chet 99
So who is the brilliant scheduler who plans this event to occur barely 12 hours after the Green Bay Packers get whacked by the Dallas Cowboys? I know they wouldn't know the outcome, but do you even take such a chance?

I'm sure those folks were in a REALLY good mood.....

29 posted on 09/22/2008 1:20:21 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Obviously, liberals can't handle a strong, independent woman.)
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To: Chet 99
If this is true, this is a huge deal!!!!

According to the "experts" Wisconsin only has one Congressional seat truly in play, and that is the one that encompasses the Green Bay, Fox River Valley district.

Traditionally a Republican seat, Steve Kagan (democrat) won it in 2006. It was a paper thin victory, in a year, where we know the Democrats pretty much dominated. John Gard is running for that seat again (he was defeated, in the open seat in 2006) and I have yet to see any polls. I do know that if Obama is under performing here that is great news for Gard, and the Republicans in this area!!!!

30 posted on 09/22/2008 1:21:32 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: Chet 99
"There were an uncharacteristic amount of empty orange seats for Obama’s rally."

There is hope for America afterall!

Americans are waking up to the FACT that Obama is a hostile black racist whose mentors include terrorists, communists, black racists and other anti-American monsters.

Because Obama is the company that he keeps, Americans will hopefully avoid him and his evil friends come November.


31 posted on 09/22/2008 1:21:36 PM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: Chet 99

I think they didn’t show up because they were still sick from seeing the Pack get spanked by the Cowboys this weekend. ;OP


32 posted on 09/22/2008 1:22:26 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Yes, the national polling just doesn’t add up.. something’s going on.

Even with the national polls showing fauxbama gaining support in his number of votes, when you look at the internals you see he’s lost support across every demographic group, including DEMOCRATS... yet somehow he’s gaining in the polls? Something isn’t adding up in these national polls folks.

The reality is is Fauxbama is collapsing, the real battleground right now is the rust belt, PA, MI, WI and MN, any one of those states goes to McCain and Fauxbama can’t win, period.

Its looking more and more like Fauxbama will lose more than one of those states. I have always thought that he would lose at least 2 of the 3 (MI,PA and WI), and if with MN now looking realistically like its in play, there’s a good chance that he may lose 3 if not all 4 of these states.

Dems may be able to rally the machine enough in MN to keep it from flipping, but WI, MI and PA are in play, and PA is already lost to Fauxbama as far as I’m concerned.

Fauxbama must keep everything Kerry got and pick up 19. The only state pick up wise for him that looks like it MIGHT hold is IA (and that’s mainly due to ethanol subsidies) and possibly CO, which I’m not sure he’s going to be able to hold till election day... that gives him 16 new EC votes Kerry didn’t have, So even if he holds all the Kerry states and gets those additional 16, he’s still not going to win.

Fuaxbama however is not looking at all like he’s going to hold the Kerry states. No other republican state is going to change, VA is not going to flip, FL and OH are not going to flip, nor is IN. NH (5 votes) may very well go R, PA,MI,WI and MN at least 1 of these will go R (And I believe at least 2) The least electorially is 10 (WI) the most PA (21). WA is in play as well out there on the west coast, and I think a lot of the MSM are going to wake up to this fact, in about 2-3 weeks, unless something drastically changes. That theft of the governorship 4 years ago is going to bite back hard on the dems, costing them up and down the ticket there.


33 posted on 09/22/2008 1:22:37 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Obama has peaked. He is off of his inspirational message and now just sounds like a run of the mill politician. He is not inspiring people to wait for hours for his speeches like they did earlier. These folks won’t wait for hours in lines to vote for him either. He’s toast.


34 posted on 09/22/2008 1:22:47 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: Thane_Banquo

“They are also doing constant polling and seeing demographic trends that we are only seeing bits and pieces of.”

BINGO, BINGO, BINGO!!!

Stephanopolous aluded to this the week BEFORE the Dem convention, saying that internal polling he had seen had Obama DOWN 12 points....


35 posted on 09/22/2008 1:22:57 PM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

It’s not just you. Something doesn’t smell right about the national polls.


36 posted on 09/22/2008 1:24:19 PM PDT by avacado
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To: Chet 99

LOL, next stop Oregon and Washington. Barry is tanking there also.

Meanwhile, John McCain has opened 50 offices in California.


37 posted on 09/22/2008 1:24:38 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

It’s not just you......I’m feeling cautiously optimistic after reading several stories today.


38 posted on 09/22/2008 1:25:04 PM PDT by mpackard (Read my Lip-Stick)
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To: Chet 99

Polls are a bit amusing due to the small sampling. How many of the 10,000 at the McCian rally were included? 600 or 1000 people telling you what they think is like a lottery maybe you get the correct numbers maybe not. As a healthcare professional, I can say that medical studies with only that few participants are not well regarded. Since so many polls are by left leaning organizations, how could they not easily be skewed.


39 posted on 09/22/2008 1:26:19 PM PDT by nclaurel (I think therefore I vote Republican.)
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To: Norman Bates

It is going to be a rout. I knew it the moment I saw Obama jump the shark with the “above my paygrade” remark. It was further solidified when it was pointed out, and evidence strongly supported, that the man cannot keep from harming himself when speaking without a teleprompter.

It was absolutely confirmed when Piper licked her hand and “fixed” her brother’s hair. Ok, that last one is based on what I already knew of Palin’s record coupled with the female response to it.

Bottom line, barring some unforseen event like death, etc., McCain will destroy Obama this election. Obamas popularity will fall as though off a cliff in the last two weeks.

This reminds me of the end of “The Man Who Would Be King”. Once discovered for the fraud he is, things collapse rather briskly. Not as fast as in the movie, but close enough.


40 posted on 09/22/2008 1:26:38 PM PDT by RobRoy (This is comical)
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