Mama, this is some complex!
Posted on 09/13/2008 6:19:39 PM PDT by wardaddy
JOHN LENNON fantasised about having sex with his mother Julia, according to a leaked audio diary which it is claimed he recorded a year before his death.
His widow YOKO ONO and BEATLES bandmate PAUL McCARTNEY are furious about forthcoming book John Lennon: The Life by Philip Norman, which makes the lurid accusation.
However on the tape - which you can listen to by clicking here- a voice alleged to be John’s can be heard noting: “I was just remembering the time I had my hand on my mother’s t*t in 1 Blomfield Road.
“It was when I was about 14.
“I took a day off school, I was always doing that and hanging out in her house.
“We were lying on the bed and I was thinking ‘I wonder if I should do anything else?’”
The audio – recorded on September 5 1979 – continues: “It was a strange moment, because I actually had the hots for some rather lower class female who lived on the other side of the road.
Mum ... Julia Lennon
“I always think that I should have done it. Presuming she would have allowed it.”
(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...
IMHO, it’s much harder to play an instrument when you CAN’T read music!
o/~ Your mother should know... o/~
...because your hand’s on her ****, you freak!
No reason to be sorry...other its Sunday, as in 1656 hrs, for other FReepers also...:)
Not surprising europe is full of inbreds.
Not really odd, depends on what time zone you are in.
You should ask some questions...you know what they say about assumptions.
Personally, I think Cohen is the best, been listening to him since 1969.
I have no animosity towards you, I just thought it odd to bring it up, and it happened to be sunday morning when I saw it. Please relax, this is just an anonymous web forum.
As it does for each of us.
You could always ask, instead of just commenting. No, by the way, never tried it...but I would if that was what God had planned for me.
Fighting? What, are you 20 yrs old? This is just a web forum.
I’m going to bed now, it’s almost 2130. Look at a globe, there are time zones.
To wit: Consider these three Beatles songs that are virtually unlistenable today:
I Am The Walrus
Yellow Submarine
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
Utter junk. Contrast that to other music of the era that didn't get nearly as much attention but are still considered absolute pop masterpieces today:
"Some Velvet Morning" by Lee Hazelwood and Nancy Sinatra
"The Rain, The Park and Other Things" by The Cowsills
"California Dreaming" by Mamas and Papas
Now the Beatles did have some good tunes but overall, they are a classic example of a group being much greater than the sum of their parts. Consider the biggest hits of the four Beatles after they broke up. "Silly Love Songs" by Paul McCartney, "She's 16" by Ringo Starr, the vapid "Imagine" by John Lennon. Only "My Sweet Lord" by George Harrison stands the test of time and they say he stole that one from "He's So Fine".
All in all, the music is so overrated that I have maybe a half dozen Beatles songs in my massive MP3 collection while I have hundreds and hundreds of other songs (like the three I posted above) from that 1964-1970 era that blow the Beatles away.
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I once relieved myself in the 'Strawberry Fields' corner of Central Park.
And that is the truth
I think a point that has been made some times, but not often enough, is the impact that WWII had on that generation of English musicians.
John Lennon was born during the blitz bombing and was originally given the middle name of “Winston” for just that reason.
The Beatles (and many like them) grew up at a time when there just wasn’t a lot of money or stuff to go around. The country was still reeling from the effects of the war. I remember an anecdote in some Beatles book I read about Paul and his mates going over to Paul’s house one afternoon because his family was a bit well off and they had an egg or two or three that the friends could eat? Imagine in today’s world going to a friend’s house in the afternoon because you might get to eat an egg? Today’s generation would think you were from mars.
I’m a big Kinks fan. The Davies family was forced to move as a result of urban renewal (i.e. bomb damage at that point in time) and that forced move has colored Ray Davies’ writing through something like 35 albums. Muswell Hillbillies is the most obvious example but there are many, many others.
What we lose sight of now almost 50 years after the “British Invasion” is that many of these musicians grew up in a country that had been ravaged (i.e. bombed) and certainly made poor by a war that bled the country white. The anger, the energy, the striving for something better was IMHO a direct result of that.
I’m not saying this to excuse anything Lennon may have done, merely to try to put the “British Invasion” in some kind of historical and socio-economic context.
Cohen did go to a therapist once, actually -- out of desperation. He was so depressed that he called a friend and asked if she could arrange for him to see her therapist straightaway. Then he drove to St. John's Health Center in Santa Monica "at about five miles an hour," barely able to negotiate the traffic. When he got there, the therapist asked him to describe his feelings. After Cohen had finished, she said, "How can you stand it?"
That’s not what my Bible says.
Have a nice day.
I would say that as a Beatle, John Lennon was a very good songwriter, with moments of brilliance (She's Leaving Home comes to mind.) But a genius? Nope. I believe Paul McCartney was the better songwriter. His songs seem to have a longer, stronger shelf life. What song does Lennon have to match Let it Be, or Hey Jude, or the Long and Winding Road? Or hell, even Birthday? But would you say McCartney was a genius? JS Bach? Hell no. A very, very good pop songwriter. Lennon? At times a good songwriter.
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