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Anyone agree? The 'Pig' comment seems small and trivial, so somebody calls you a pig? good grief, it's politics. Stop wining, he knocked them off message and this is what it is all about. Ignore it.
1 posted on 09/10/2008 8:10:53 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

No, I don’t agree, not for a couple of more hours. This needs to be in the news for one day cycle (8am to 8pm). One last statement from the McCain camp should end it, but there needs to be that last statement. If I may humbly suggest:

It is clear that Senator Obama cleverly called Governor Palin a pig by using a well-known phrase. Instead of apologizing for the insulting personal attack, he is saying that we need to focus on real issues in this campaign, such as the lack of executive experience in several of the candidate’s resumes. We agree that the American people deserve more than tabloid looks at minor issues and deserve to hear more from the candidates themselves on their positions and experience.


161 posted on 09/10/2008 8:55:55 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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I agree—get on the issues or on Obama’s 57 states/New Pennsylvania gaff


166 posted on 09/10/2008 9:00:38 AM PDT by uncbob
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I could not disagree with you more.

The pig comment and the stink comment are outrageous and will not be tolerated.

Our individual and collective Gestalts are working just fine and we know exactly what Obama was implying. Now he’ll come back and say he was just trying to make a joke. Does he take us all for fools?

His poll numbers will continue to slip as he continues to sputter and gets away from his talking points. So, on second thought, let him continue to open his mouth. The polls will let him know plenty fast that the McCain ticket will absorb Obama’s losses.

My question is: why is he even trying to engage his opponent’s running mate? Obama should be trying to engage McCain, not Palin.

Palin is going to pick up more and more support from women voters. McCain has already picked up a 20 point gain among women voters (which Obama says is a lie, but no matter. He was all too eager to believe the polls when they were in his favor.)

— Jane


170 posted on 09/10/2008 9:03:28 AM PDT by quintr
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Insult made...disapproval noted...insult defended...let’s move on. Advantage: McCain.


171 posted on 09/10/2008 9:03:56 AM PDT by ChowChowFace
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This is Obama’s Dukakis in the Tank moment.

He smeared the lipstick all over himself.

Tough noogies.


173 posted on 09/10/2008 9:04:28 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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I agree that the official campaign ought to stay above the fray on this, but it's good for surrogates and grass-roots (like FR) to be spreading it as an example of Obama's low-class crassness.

As for the comment itself, big deal. I've called Hillary a swine.

By the way, earlier today you posted in big screaming capital letters, "OKAY FOLKS, GROW UP, GET THE PARAGRAPH HE SAID BEFORE WHAT YOU HAVE POSTED AND YOU WILL SEE HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT SARAH AT ALL"...

now you say "...so somebody calls you a pig? good grief, it's politics."

Which is it?

176 posted on 09/10/2008 9:05:13 AM PDT by Sloth (Biden has "Joe-mentum")
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No I don’t agree at all. If you read any of the far left websites you will immediately learn that he meant this just as it was took. With his arrogant nonapology he’s now taken the victim route and looks like the weasely immaturelittle man that he is. Sorry Barry but you don’t get to insult and then call it off when it makes you look bad.


183 posted on 09/10/2008 9:07:29 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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I agree. The McCain team should not respond to this at all. Don’t play the victim card. That’s the Democrats game.


185 posted on 09/10/2008 9:08:54 AM PDT by Signalman
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Obama flat-out lied in his statement about McCain being behind this “lipstick on a pig” controversy. He has zero proof that McCain caused this controversy and it is Obummer himself that made the statement in the first place. So here is Obummer trying to turn a negative into a plus — and it won’t work because most voters are politically savvy enough to realize that he was referring to Palin in her recent speech about “hockey moms”. You would have to be completely naive to think that Obummer wasn’t alluding to Palin in his creepy statement. And you could tell by the reaction of all of the Democrats erupting into hysterical applause and cheering as he said it. So Obummer has no case against McCain — it was intentional, it was planned he meant it, it was intentional and then he lied about McCain being behind it. Nice try Obummer, but it won’t work.


188 posted on 09/10/2008 9:16:21 AM PDT by BombHollywood
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After seeing the Obama reaction this morning, I could not disagree with you more. Obama put his foot firmly in his mouth this morning, after making what was a dumb but possibly innocent comment yesterdday. The McCain web ad called him on the comment. Obama could easily have turned that to his advantage with a humble reply like "When I made the pig comment I did not in any way mean to imply that was directed at Gov. Palin, and I apologize for any insult that might have been taken from that comment" - the news cycle would be over with Obama looking presidential.

Instead, we have a defensive and whiny Obama defiantly refusing to acknowledge any error and attempting to blame everyone else. Immediate reaction to this from various left and right online blogs is pretty begative to Obama, and he loses the whole news cycle for at least another day.

McCain's people really do seem to be firmly inside Obama's OODA loop.

191 posted on 09/10/2008 9:23:40 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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“Infantry must move forward to close with the enemy. It must shoot in order to move…. To halt under fire is folly. To halt under fire and not fire back is suicide. Officers must set the example”
- General George Patton Jr “War as I knew it” 1947


193 posted on 09/10/2008 9:33:47 AM PDT by Highway55
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I agree.
195 posted on 09/10/2008 9:47:40 AM PDT by paolop
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To: Scythian; All

The crowd was chanting “No pit bull! No pit bull” before the rally.

The image was of Sarah’s comment was at the fore of the crowd’s collective mindset.

In addition, the crowd KNEW EXACTLY what he was referring by their obvious reaction.

the Deets


198 posted on 09/10/2008 9:57:32 AM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican)
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The thing that makes Obama's pig statement stand out is there is no substance to it. He's not criticizing anything she had said or did in particular.

She had made a comment saying that she would aggressively fight for what she thought was right. She made the argument that she is the true aggressive advocate for change that Obama was not.

Obama's response is that she's just a dressed up pig.

It's obviously spiteful and without substance.

He's the presidential candidate making spiteful and insubstantial insults towards the opposing vice presidential candidate.

It shows that he's being over shadowed by the vice presidential candidate of the opposition. That shows a lot about how weak his message really is.

The fact that she's overshadowing McCain by so much shows how weak he is as well, but since she's on his side it helps him far more than it hurts him.

Stop wining, he knocked them off message and this is what it is all about. Ignore it.

The comment shows people something that the McCain campaign doesn't want people to miss, and they can't rely on the press not to gloss over it and try and bury it as soon as possible, so they needed to do something to bring it to people's attention.

Is it taking the McCain camp off message? Somewhat, but McCain's message really hasn't resonated all that well with people, so having people focus on Palin isn't a bad strategy.

At the same time, it has taken Obama off message and put him on the defensive. All Obama really has is charisma, and when he's under pressure he doesn't even have that. This gaff shows he isn't a skilled politician. His lead in the polls disappeared and he lashed out with childish insults.

Democrats usually value form over function. This shows that Obama is weak on both.

Release the ad, then go back on message while Obama wastes his time dealing with the mess he created.

Obama's strength is the support of the media. If he's on the defensive rather than spouting his platitudes while the media tells everyone how great he is, the illusion he's created around himself wavers.

199 posted on 09/10/2008 9:58:40 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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McCain is putting the pressure on Obama and keeping it on. Why shouldn’t he, given how discombobulated and gaffe-prone Obama gets when he is criticized.

I hope McCain keeps it up because I am consumed with curiosity about what this doofus Democrat candidate will do next. I think lots of people are curious, in a pass-the-popcorn sort of way.


201 posted on 09/10/2008 10:03:20 AM PDT by SBprone
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Is he leaving it to the base, then let’s get to work.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2078854/posts


203 posted on 09/10/2008 10:05:22 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (I have a friend and pal in SARAH!!!!!!!)
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I think the McCain camp made a mistake by acting offended. What they should have done is shown that Obama is copying the things McCain says, and pretending they are his own words.


210 posted on 09/10/2008 1:40:03 PM PDT by TheMom (Sarah is one of us . . . there is hope for America!)
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Well here is the deal...That was the third lipstick comment of the day in the Obama camp. Biden and the Missouri gov? also had lipstick references. That is clearly aimed at Palin and smacks of sexism.

So, I would bring all three up but then drop it quickly. A lot of women are offended but no need to belabor the point.

214 posted on 09/10/2008 2:40:34 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Dt 30, Ps 111, The Torah is perfect, attainable, now and forever)
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No, I don't agree. Call them to the carpet every time dems are over the top. Do not retaliate with name calling but point out how low class the other side is over and over.

Americans do not like mean people. They never put up with bad treatment of women and children. It only solidifies the crudeness of the dems this election cycle in American minds.

Even if they do not change their vote to republican, good people will have a tougher time going to vote for him. I mean really is this they type of man who should be president that makes these types of statements?

215 posted on 09/10/2008 2:52:41 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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