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One Potential Problem. re: Palin.
General News sources | 9-8-08 | maclogo

Posted on 09/08/2008 8:11:37 PM PDT by maclogo

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To: maclogo

As countless others have noted, this is called a “stump speech”. Only a tiny percentage of the population follows their candidates’ movement on the stump every single day.


101 posted on 09/08/2008 8:35:48 PM PDT by Chet 99 (http://www.mccainpalinvictory2008.com/)
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To: maclogo

did you know that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time?

YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP!


102 posted on 09/08/2008 8:35:57 PM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: SteveAustin; maclogo
How many times did you hear Al Gore prattle about “blowing a hole in the deficit” or talk about the “Fuzzy math” in 2000?
Or Clinton say “I feel your pain”

Correction: it was "Ah feel yore pain". Also, let's not forget Ross Perot's "giant sucking sound".

It's a stump speech and she's a newbie to the campaign. She'll get better. It's like starring in a movie. She scarcely has time to learn lines and then she's in front of the cameras again.

103 posted on 09/08/2008 8:36:17 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: maclogo
It's not a "serious problem" but I would call it lame.

If it was lame that Al Gore referred to himself as the "former next president of the United States" about nineteen billion times, it's lame when anybody repeats themselves over and over again.

There's no controlling legal authority to stop it though.

104 posted on 09/08/2008 8:36:18 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: maclogo
But, I have noticed over the past couple of days that Gov. Palin keeps using the EXACT same lines and phrases on the campaign trail that she used so effectively in her convention speech last week.

This is not good.


Why do you think that she blew everyone away during her first speech?? Because she allowed her enemies to build a straw man, and she demolished it with her convention speech. Now, everyone starts to go down that same path again (including O'Reilly), not even knowing that they are being drawn into the same trap. She is setting up another strawman-by-proxy (letting her enemies create the straw man again). Then when she finally comes out and speaks extemporaneously and shows she can put 2 words end-to-end, everyone will be similarly amazed, and her popularity will explode again, at the expense of her foolish enemies who set up the same straw man again, right after they watched her knock down the first one.
105 posted on 09/08/2008 8:36:27 PM PDT by AaronInCarolina
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To: Galleta

“When you are kicking ass, never change your boots.” - Confusius”

I’m just concerned that if the boots wear out, you can’t kick ass...???

The “stump speech” argument does not hold up as well in this day and age.


106 posted on 09/08/2008 8:37:19 PM PDT by maclogo (Think Logically ((It really ticks off the Liberals))
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To: maclogo
The stump rhetoric is very carefully crafted. It incorporates the boiler plate script that has been carefully worked for its maximum effect and the target material that is scripted for the particular region that the rally takes place. It also sends a few salvos out to the enemy camp to put them on the defensive. The key is not to reinvent the wheel with each speech. This allows the candidates to feel as comfortable with their audience as they are comfortable with their speech.

I have seen McCain give the same basic speech every time I have seen him. This allows him to speak without reading a script or a teleprompter. What one does not want to do is deal with an unfamiliar speech that risks forgetting ones lines in front of a large rally. The press would eat you up if you did that.

107 posted on 09/08/2008 8:38:00 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: CitizenM

No- it’s Confusus- Obama philosophical adviser.


108 posted on 09/08/2008 8:38:01 PM PDT by midnightson (Mama-the ultimate prognosticator- said there'd be days like this.)
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To: maclogo

I watched the McCain/Palin appearance here in Kansas City.

While they did have the same theme, both Sarah and John (as well as the other speakers) did find fresh ways to say the same things.

Actually, Sarah is adding a gutsy female inflection to the end of more of her statements.

They know they have to repeat their main themes and campaign issues over, and over, and over, for the benefit of those at each location they visit, but they are doing their best to make sure it sounds fresh, and sincere.

At least we are sure what they are promising, whereas the Obama/Biden speeches are more like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ted9Hzn8foY


109 posted on 09/08/2008 8:40:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: maclogo

The mere fact that you are posting on FR means you are at the far end of the bell curve in terms of the amount of attention you pay to politics. She has to repeat the lines because many people have not heard them. Not everybody follows this stuff like we do—the votes we are after now barely follow it at all. She is fully capable of switching things up and thinking on her feet.


110 posted on 09/08/2008 8:40:43 PM PDT by Callahan
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To: JasonC
I can't even count the number of times McCain has said his "I'll make them famous" line, of pork barrel lobbyists. He repeats it in every stump speech because it is a good line and it polled well in focus groups etc. Political junkies vastly overestimate the number of times any given ordinary person hears word one from any given candidate...

I could swear I've read this before! ;-)

111 posted on 09/08/2008 8:41:05 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: maclogo

It’s a stump speech. That’s what stump speeches are.


112 posted on 09/08/2008 8:41:59 PM PDT by PowerPro (McCain/Palin FTW)
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To: maclogo

I think the Mccain camp should lull all the pundits into a false sense of security, by letting them think she is just a one trick pony. Then just as all the pundits think they’ve got her all figured out, and begin the heavy critism, turn the Pitbull with lipstick loose!


113 posted on 09/08/2008 8:42:10 PM PDT by WhatNot (Obama + Biden + Pelosi = Unholy Trintiy)
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To: maclogo

Nelson Rockefeller spend the entire 1964 primary season with the same stump speech. It included a line about ‘The brotherhood of man under the fatherhood of God’ or BOMFOG for short.


114 posted on 09/08/2008 8:42:22 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: bahblahbah

You’ve posted several doom and gloom predictions now, Eeyore. Whatever else McCain has done - and I’m not a fan of his - he has run an excellent campaign.


115 posted on 09/08/2008 8:42:28 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Mav & the Barracuda vs. Messiah and the Mouth)
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To: maclogo

I heard Pres Bush’s main speech so many times in 2000 that I had most of it memorized. That is what politicians do. Because we have heard her speech doesn’t mean that everyone has or that a lot of people may want to hear her say it in person.

Why would anyone think a candidate could do a new speech from stop to stop is beyond me.

May all the troubles be so small!


116 posted on 09/08/2008 8:43:52 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! McCainNow.com; LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: Spktyr

“You’re paranoid. All politicians do this.”

I heard Dick Armey give a stump speech supporting a Republican candidate on three different occasions. It was three different candidates, three different years — and the exact SAME speech.

Right on down to the SAME joke about how his wife would kill him if he ever let an intern do a Lewinsky on him. (”How do ya reload this thang?”


117 posted on 09/08/2008 8:44:00 PM PDT by No Truce With Kings (The opinions expressed are mine! Mine! MINE! All Mine!)
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To: t2buckeye
I hope you're right. The problem with anybody's stump speech is that with the 24/7 news outlets we've all heard it before.

October debate should be interesting.

118 posted on 09/08/2008 8:45:15 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: CurlyBill

“They do this all the time as they are in front of different audiences.”

I have followed many elections. The way this is coming off IS NOT in front of DIFFERENT audiences. We ALL saw the convention speech. It is different than a Stump speech.


119 posted on 09/08/2008 8:46:51 PM PDT by maclogo (Think Logically ((It really ticks off the Liberals))
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To: BobL

“But heck, give her a break, she’s had barely a week... “

I’m just looking ahead (e.g.: next week!}


120 posted on 09/08/2008 8:49:45 PM PDT by maclogo (Think Logically ((It really ticks off the Liberals))
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