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Conservatives Refusing to Support McCain: Here´s What You´ll Get
The American Chronicle ^ | August 26, 2008 | Nathaniel Shockey

Posted on 08/26/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There has been plenty of whining from conservatives concerning whether John McCain would select a pro-choice vice president. I just hope whining is all it is. As my colleague Dan Calabrese pointed out on August 21, the political leanings of the VP concerning abortion are largely irrelevant. The only way to meaningfully decrease the number of abortions is to convince people that abortion is a bad idea, not to legislate.

But this conservative whining must be starting to concern McCain and his political strategists at least a little. Maybe these people who keep complaining that McCain isn´t conservative enough are actually considering the possibility of not voting.

On one hand, Barack Obama simply isn´t popular enough to be truly threatening. He´s inexperienced, doesn´t understand the issues very well, doesn´t exude patriotism and has some horrendous relationship baggage. When you tally it up, it amounts to a major risk. And as past elections have shown, it´s been risks like these that have ultimately pushed people past the summer excitement and back into the autumn safety of conservative candidates who, if nothing else, seem more or less transparent.

But on the other hand, the support of the conservative base is an important element of this seasonal routine. So even if the swing voters play their role perfectly, as I suspect they will, it probably won´t be enough if a significant portion of the conservative base doesn´t vote.

So I must pose a question to the whining conservatives who are threatening to stay home on November 4, sitting in their La-Z-Boys with arms crossed, puffed up blood-tinted cheeks, and brows furrowed like a toddler who doesn´t want to take a nap. Are you prepared to deal with the consequences of an Obama presidency?

Realize that the average age on the U.S. Supreme Court is currently 68. John Paul Stevens is 88 and Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 75. Obama would select at least one, probably two new justices.

Bills that put crushing new requirements and taxes on businesses would almost certainly pass a Democratic Congress, and be signed by a president who has never run a lemonade stand in his life, much less a business. Don´t expect him to start vetoing bills just because they would drive our country´s deficit beyond anything prior.

Realize that Obama would not be aggressive on terrorism, that Islamofascists are probably licking their lips at the prospect of a passive American president who would be content to play defense, and would even take seriously the lip-service of radicals like the Iranian president. With an appeaser as our commander in chief, terrorist networks would inevitably regain strength, and more innocent people will die. Call it a scare tactic or anything you like. It´s completely logical.

Realize that 3 percent of Americans pay about half of America´s taxes. If we elect Obama, those numbers will be even more lopsided. Obama has pledged to increase taxes on the wealthy, who would, in turn, hide their money. That´s a brilliant plan if your goal is to completely stifle an economy.

Realize that Obama probably won´t allow America to drill for its own oil. Have you enjoyed watching our Congress take a vacation when we need them the most? With Obama at the helm, there will be even less pressure on them to do their jobs and get Americans the oil they desperately need. Expect more of the same naïve lip service that describes local oil-drilling as the problem, and not as the obvious solution it is.

Realize that when Obama talks about creating jobs, he means he will be building even more government agencies. He is not talking about letting the economy naturally flourish and creating jobs by getting the government out of the way. If you are ready for an even bigger government than our current one, Obama is your man.

Of course, Obama would not be without an upside. The evening news would be much more upbeat when the media´s biggest crush becomes the most powerful man in the world for four years. There would be no more of the incessantly grim ramblings to which we´ve become so accustomed.

Finally, realize that Obama has good intentions. I respect that he is an idealist, even if I disagree with his ideals. And if we do elect him, I don´t think America will crumble. I just think he would leave it in even worse condition than the one in which he found it.

So to conservative boneheads out there, standing in the corner, pouting because your first choice isn´t the Republican nominee, it´s time you got over it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; boneheads; compromise; conservativevote; election; electionpresident; elections; mccain; mccainbot; obama; obamatruthfile; rationalizing
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To: calcowgirl

“Your pious arguments could help Obama, and that would be disasterous for America.”

The above is my post and I stand by it. Obviously you are an Obama schill.


161 posted on 08/27/2008 7:20:26 AM PDT by Kackikat ( Without National Security all other issues are mute points; chaos ensues.))
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To: calcowgirl

Oh, I agree completely. I just thought it was a funny bumper sticker that reflects the feelings of even the people who plan to vote for McCain.

I wish we could vote third party. Oklahoma has such bad ballot access laws that we won’t have that option. Do you think we could get Bush to bring democracy to Oklahoma?


162 posted on 08/27/2008 8:35:13 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So I must pose a question to the whining conservatives who are threatening to stay home on November 4, sitting in their La-Z-Boys with arms crossed, puffed up blood-tinted cheeks, and brows furrowed like a toddler who doesn´t want to take a nap. Are you prepared to deal with the consequences of an Obama presidency?

In a word:

Yes.

And FU for your condescension, too.

163 posted on 08/27/2008 8:55:24 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: utahagen
but McCain would appoint judges who are much more likely to protect (most of) the unborn than the judges Obama would appoint.

Why would McCain waste political capital and start a bruising political fight with Congressional Democrats to get us judges long after we've already served his electoral purposes?

164 posted on 08/27/2008 9:00:48 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: Kackikat
The above is my post and I stand by it.

Then you have no understanding of the word "pious."

Obviously you are an Obama schill.

Nah... I just don't care for Schwarzenegger pubbies and their leftist views.

Ya see--I hate liberalism(D) and liberalism(R).

165 posted on 08/27/2008 9:02:51 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Do you think we could get Bush to bring democracy to Oklahoma?

LOL. That's a toughie.

166 posted on 08/27/2008 9:04:52 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Once-Ler
No. The Bible doesn't speak of embryonic stem cells research.

This is what you refer to as referencing scripture? C'mon, don't insult this discusson - I want chapter and verse.

My God wants to end the 1.2 million annual US abortions. Your God couldn't bend your heart and find compassion for them. Your uncompromising principles don't allow you to help keep them from being ripped to shreds or burned in salt water.

Look here bucko, I've held dismembered babies in my very hands that I've taken from city trash dumpsters behind abortion mills, in order to give them a proper burial. I've been arrested for my pro-life actions. What exactly have you done to stop the slaughter of innocent human life. I want details.

As long as people like you are willing to compromise on God's word then we will continue to be judged as a nation by God and will continue to have murderous blood running through our streets.

The innocent blood of the babies slaughtered through embryonic stem cell research will be upon your hands if you choose to bow down to Mammon and support candidates that have a policy of child killing.
167 posted on 08/27/2008 9:07:13 AM PDT by politicket (If it defaults, call it something else and sell more of it.)
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To: Candor7
So for those who are that directly religious and moralistic, think about the sin of allowing the nation to become without the traditional freedoms which allow us all to worship as we please, and to continue to create a more perfect union of citizens.On balance for me , voting to prevent that is to prevent a greater sin of loss of the freedom tha God gave our nation so we might do good to each other and in the world. Without that freedom the issue of abortion will be irretrievably lost to the Godless.

Spare me.

168 posted on 08/27/2008 9:14:10 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: BufordP

Well he DOES suck less


169 posted on 08/27/2008 9:16:08 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There has been plenty of whining...

Get bent, Mr. Shockey. McCain feels that his primary constituency is the mushy middle, so let him get his votes from there.

170 posted on 08/27/2008 9:22:23 AM PDT by Doohickey (Wingnut: A small, dense object that spins easily (See: Obama, Barack))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THE QUESTION is

If McCain says he could put a ProAbortionist in for VP
Why, would he then not put a ProAbortionist on the court?

Now if he chooses Sarah Palin......


171 posted on 08/27/2008 9:27:14 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: BelegStrongbow
I will vote for McCain and be on record as having stood against the complete socialization of America.

As opposed to only the partial socialization of America, when McCain and the Democrats join together to bail out private enterprise (GM, FNM, FRE, and company)?

Socialism for the rich is still Socialism.

172 posted on 08/27/2008 10:28:47 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Don't steal. John McCain and Barack Obama hate competition.)
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To: calcowgirl; Pining_4_TX
But I’m in California where McCain doesn’t have a chance anyway.

I suppose the fact that I'm in Virginia and refuse to bow down to McCain only serves to enrage his mugwhores here on FR even further.

173 posted on 08/27/2008 10:31:59 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Don't steal. John McCain and Barack Obama hate competition.)
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To: trublu; 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson
McCain isn’t the conservative candidate I wanted.

There, fixed it for you.

McCain is not conservative, period.

174 posted on 08/27/2008 10:33:40 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Don't steal. John McCain and Barack Obama hate competition.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Whoa! I hope you don’t include me in that description. I’m not voting for McInsane. I am having a hard time deciding whether Obama or McCain would be the worse president. It’s enough to make you want to move to your own private island.


175 posted on 08/27/2008 10:38:53 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX
Whoa! I hope you don’t include me in that description.

No, I didn't. Perhaps I should have made that extremely clear.

I am having a hard time deciding whether Obama or McCain would be the worse president.

I hear you.

I’m not voting for McInsane.

But I'm in one of those "swing states." Bwahahaha.

176 posted on 08/27/2008 10:43:26 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Don't steal. John McCain and Barack Obama hate competition.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
It’s enough to make you want to move to your own private island.

Willing to relocate...

177 posted on 08/27/2008 11:08:13 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: rabscuttle385

“As opposed to only the partial socialization of America, when McCain and the Democrats join together to bail out private enterprise (GM, FNM, FRE, and company)?”

You must think we’re entirely powerless against Congress to have written that. Were you planning to find that perfect candidate, vote that person in and then kick back? How engaged is that? And how different is that for what you want than for the idolators who will bow down to the One as he emerges from his temple tomorrow? It does not differ in the slightest and runs the exact same risk of hubris and potential subjection for you. Whether you will enjoy the resulting durance is a matter of personal taste, but the effect will not be any different and the damage to the American body politic will be equally destructive.

And I also point out to you that what you allege will happen has already happened many times from both sides of the aisle. So if there will be Socialism, then there already is Socialism and then what would be your point? Of course, every vote not for Obama does help, but one for McCain likely counts twice as much as any other because a vote for an also-ran subtracts from the leader on that side of the ledger while not affecting Obama. A vote for McCain has no such reduction.

I recommend you think again.


178 posted on 08/27/2008 11:09:46 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (what part of 'mias gunaikos andra' do Episcopalians not understand?)
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To: rabscuttle385

It didn’t need to be fixed. I wanted a conservative candidate. We have McCain instead. McCain wasn’t my 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice. But to withhold my vote, I believe, makes it easier for Obama to become the next POTUS. That thought keeps me up at night. Our country would be in peril. I disagree with JM on many issues. But it’s either him or BO. That’s the race. Attempting to make a statement by not voting or casting a ballot for a guaranteed-to-lose third party candidate just makes it that much easier for a radical Marxist to take the reigns of our nation. I’ll vote for McCain now and keep contributing to and endorsing real conservatives whenever and wherever I can. It’s all I can do now.


179 posted on 08/27/2008 11:18:55 AM PDT by trublu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
So I must pose a question to the whining conservatives who are threatening to stay home on November 4, sitting in their La-Z-Boys with arms crossed, puffed up blood-tinted cheeks, and brows furrowed like a toddler who doesn´t want to take a nap. Are you prepared to deal with the consequences of an Obama presidency?

Ah, the "pragmatists" can never resist the de rigeur slam at principled conservatives who won't sell their birthright for a bowl of potage. These same folk had better realize that the same principle which made us turn out to support conservative candidats in previous election now makes us again hold our ground, this time against the sell-out political whore McCain.

180 posted on 08/27/2008 4:43:26 PM PDT by E. Cartman (Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it.)
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