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Conservatives Refusing to Support McCain: Here´s What You´ll Get
The American Chronicle ^ | August 26, 2008 | Nathaniel Shockey

Posted on 08/26/2008 7:29:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There has been plenty of whining from conservatives concerning whether John McCain would select a pro-choice vice president. I just hope whining is all it is. As my colleague Dan Calabrese pointed out on August 21, the political leanings of the VP concerning abortion are largely irrelevant. The only way to meaningfully decrease the number of abortions is to convince people that abortion is a bad idea, not to legislate.

But this conservative whining must be starting to concern McCain and his political strategists at least a little. Maybe these people who keep complaining that McCain isn´t conservative enough are actually considering the possibility of not voting.

On one hand, Barack Obama simply isn´t popular enough to be truly threatening. He´s inexperienced, doesn´t understand the issues very well, doesn´t exude patriotism and has some horrendous relationship baggage. When you tally it up, it amounts to a major risk. And as past elections have shown, it´s been risks like these that have ultimately pushed people past the summer excitement and back into the autumn safety of conservative candidates who, if nothing else, seem more or less transparent.

But on the other hand, the support of the conservative base is an important element of this seasonal routine. So even if the swing voters play their role perfectly, as I suspect they will, it probably won´t be enough if a significant portion of the conservative base doesn´t vote.

So I must pose a question to the whining conservatives who are threatening to stay home on November 4, sitting in their La-Z-Boys with arms crossed, puffed up blood-tinted cheeks, and brows furrowed like a toddler who doesn´t want to take a nap. Are you prepared to deal with the consequences of an Obama presidency?

Realize that the average age on the U.S. Supreme Court is currently 68. John Paul Stevens is 88 and Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 75. Obama would select at least one, probably two new justices.

Bills that put crushing new requirements and taxes on businesses would almost certainly pass a Democratic Congress, and be signed by a president who has never run a lemonade stand in his life, much less a business. Don´t expect him to start vetoing bills just because they would drive our country´s deficit beyond anything prior.

Realize that Obama would not be aggressive on terrorism, that Islamofascists are probably licking their lips at the prospect of a passive American president who would be content to play defense, and would even take seriously the lip-service of radicals like the Iranian president. With an appeaser as our commander in chief, terrorist networks would inevitably regain strength, and more innocent people will die. Call it a scare tactic or anything you like. It´s completely logical.

Realize that 3 percent of Americans pay about half of America´s taxes. If we elect Obama, those numbers will be even more lopsided. Obama has pledged to increase taxes on the wealthy, who would, in turn, hide their money. That´s a brilliant plan if your goal is to completely stifle an economy.

Realize that Obama probably won´t allow America to drill for its own oil. Have you enjoyed watching our Congress take a vacation when we need them the most? With Obama at the helm, there will be even less pressure on them to do their jobs and get Americans the oil they desperately need. Expect more of the same naïve lip service that describes local oil-drilling as the problem, and not as the obvious solution it is.

Realize that when Obama talks about creating jobs, he means he will be building even more government agencies. He is not talking about letting the economy naturally flourish and creating jobs by getting the government out of the way. If you are ready for an even bigger government than our current one, Obama is your man.

Of course, Obama would not be without an upside. The evening news would be much more upbeat when the media´s biggest crush becomes the most powerful man in the world for four years. There would be no more of the incessantly grim ramblings to which we´ve become so accustomed.

Finally, realize that Obama has good intentions. I respect that he is an idealist, even if I disagree with his ideals. And if we do elect him, I don´t think America will crumble. I just think he would leave it in even worse condition than the one in which he found it.

So to conservative boneheads out there, standing in the corner, pouting because your first choice isn´t the Republican nominee, it´s time you got over it.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; abortion; boneheads; compromise; conservativevote; election; electionpresident; elections; mccain; mccainbot; obama; obamatruthfile; rationalizing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"So to conservative boneheads out there, standing in the corner, pouting because your first choice isn´t the Republican nominee, it´s time you got over it."

SO you think that we're pouting because we didn't get our way, and therefore we're not voting for McCain?

Well, that may have been the case a few months ago, but for some conservatives like myself, I've been considering voting for him, and just for the very reasons you and others have espoused.

However, if pricks like the one who wrote this little article don't shut their condescending mouths, there will be allot of conservatives like myself who may decide that we are right after all, and let good ole John boy find his support amongst his liberal friends in the democrap party, of whom he has spent a life time in the senate, pandering to!

In other words, Don't tell me I have to support your choice!

141 posted on 08/26/2008 10:37:32 PM PDT by Hillarys nightmare (So Proud to be living in "Jesus Land" ! Don't you wish everyone did?)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica; sport
"If Obama wins there won’t be a 2012. You need to go back to propaganda school bucko! propaganda has to be at least a little believable to be accepted. You think Obama's gonna nuke this country out of existence do ya? "

I cast my vote with Sport.

142 posted on 08/26/2008 10:50:33 PM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO's HI vacation was a birth certificate repair mission.)
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To: politicket

I’m being told by family members that I am throwing my vote away. Of course, these family members don’t know what their values are established on.


143 posted on 08/26/2008 10:54:31 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are still not voting for McCain no matter how hard you try to insult us.

Get over it....


144 posted on 08/26/2008 10:59:22 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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To: taxesareforever
I’m being told by family members that I am throwing my vote away. Of course, these family members don’t know what their values are established on.

I'm being told by quite a few FReepers on this thread that my stand is idiotic (they don't use the word, it's just suggested).

However, not one of them has actually debated the points through the use of God's word. They have yet to point out to me how John McCain's policies do not make him an individual who is responsible for the shedding of innocent blood.

Stand for what is right before God, for it is He that provides truth and strength.

Remember back in February and March of this year? Here in Colorado we had our precinct caucuses on Super Tuesday. Mitt Romney won overwhelmingly and the two individuals that voted for McCain were considered fools that everyone mocked.

Fast forward 5 months and everyone is telling us that WE are the fools for NOT voting for McCain. That is how pathetic it is when you don't adhere to God's standard - you are simply blowing about in the wind...
145 posted on 08/26/2008 11:02:45 PM PDT by politicket (If it defaults, call it something else and sell more of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.

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146 posted on 08/26/2008 11:15:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will hold my nose one more time for God, country and apple pie. Wellll*** key lime.
The down side, I don’t want to think about that.


147 posted on 08/26/2008 11:23:52 PM PDT by Ricebug (NKP RTAFB 70/71)
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To: politicket

I am with you politicket.

McCain will not benefit from “my enemy’s enemy is my friend” mentality like so many neocons have.

Neither Obama nor McCain is prolife. Therefore neither of them will get my vote.


148 posted on 08/26/2008 11:48:31 PM PDT by m4629
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To: Bean Counter

If you don’t vote for McCain, you are voting for Obama.


149 posted on 08/26/2008 11:54:34 PM PDT by robert david (John McCain = America's last hope)
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To: roamer_1

Yada, yada, yada,... Only for you is that Keyes is an egotistical nutjob who will not even pull in 0.1% of the vote. Even the anti-American whackjobs in the Constitution Party will beat him.


150 posted on 08/27/2008 12:04:04 AM PDT by robert david (John McCain = America's last hope)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don't. No one is holding a gun to my head, and that would just get messy.

The only thing which will entice me to vote Republican this time is a Conservative on the ticket for Vice President.

Nothing less, not a RINO, ont a liberalite poseur, but someone with a track record which shows they have a clue what the Constitution says.

Otherwise, I'll vote conservative on the other races and hope that someday either the Republicans get a clue that they still can't out liberal the Deomcrats and win, or a Party more reflective of my values emerges.

Either way, there is better than a 50% chance I'll be out here on an oil rig, and vote absentee anyway.

151 posted on 08/27/2008 12:14:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: CottonBall
Greetings CottonBall:

However, I fear a true conservative VP wouldn't want to be associated with a McCain presidency.

Unfortunately, I believe you are correct. Why else would the GOP even dream of slating a liberal VP? So one has to wonder how many true conservatives may have told McCain: NO WAY Juan!

Cheers,
OLA

152 posted on 08/27/2008 12:17:55 AM PDT by OneLoyalAmerican (I will vote against Obama. All I need now is a candidate to vote for.)
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To: politicket
I noticed that you didn't reference scripture once in your rebuttal, like I had requested.

REally? That's Amazing. Read my reply. Did the second sentence tipped you off to my obfuscation?

No. The Bible doesn't speak of embryonic stem cells research.
My initial claim - supported by God's word - stands. Embryonic stem cell research is the shedding of innocent blood and is murder. John McCain supports that and will not receive votes from my family because of it.

Let us say your right and God finds government funded embryonic stem cell research a fiendish abomination. Never mind that government funding is going on world-wide and privately funded within the US now. Next year Obama or McCain will be President. My God wants to end the 1.2 million annual US abortions. Your God couldn't bend your heart and find compassion for them. Your uncompromising principles don't allow you to help keep them from being ripped to shreds or burned in salt water.

I noticed that you didn't reference scripture once in your righteous indignation.

153 posted on 08/27/2008 12:18:16 AM PDT by Once-Ler (If 99% of elected officials fall into your definition of socialism, then give up. You lost already.)
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To: robert david
Only for you is that Keyes is an egotistical nutjob who will not even pull in 0.1% of the vote.

That remains to be seen. If he is afforded national exposure, as in debates (for instance), I would have every confidence that you are incorrect. Don't count your Rinos before they've crapped...

154 posted on 08/27/2008 12:23:53 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

“I’m not saying it wouldn’t be unpleasant, but think of what John Mccain will able to get away with simply because he’s a Republican.”

BINGO!

McCain has that ‘bipartisan’ history of getting democrat ideas enacted into law. Obama does not. There will be resistance to Obama from pubbies and even from dems on his worst proposals. MeCain will get them done with bipartisan support.

A question that I have is why aren’t any of McCain’s reaches across the aisle to get dems to get some conservative proposals enacted? They all seem to be to get leftist crap done.

As the election nears, I find less and less cause to vote for McCain.


155 posted on 08/27/2008 1:20:22 AM PDT by Harvey105
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Conservatives putting pressure on McCain and scaring the crap out of his campaign aides will be the best thing possible for the Conservatives who are staying with McCain and the GOP for President this year.

Anyone who supports a socialist like McCain is not a Conservative.
156 posted on 08/27/2008 3:34:42 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The theme of this article seems to be “McCain sucks less.”


157 posted on 08/27/2008 4:23:27 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Man50D
Even Christians sin, that does not make them "no longer Christians", just wayward Christians.

I still hold out hope that a lot of these will return to the fold and will join us in voting for a Conservative Alternative as opposed to Scarface and Jug Ears...but it may take time and patience.

158 posted on 08/27/2008 4:36:38 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (True Measure of A Conservative: At the End of the Day, Were You Co-opted & Neutralized by the RINOs?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCain isn’t the conservative candidate I wanted. Therefore, I’m voting for Obama to send a message to the GOP. Am I doing this right?


159 posted on 08/27/2008 5:08:57 AM PDT by trublu
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; rabscuttle385
I won't be voting for McCain in November so much as I will be trying to make these people cry as though their "god" has died.

Of course, a McCain victory will bring a great SIGH across the land. And I don't mean the "sigh of relief".


160 posted on 08/27/2008 5:36:58 AM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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