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Could Confederate surrender paper be original?
Inquirer ^ | Edward Colimore

Posted on 08/17/2008 6:16:10 PM PDT by indcons

Ever since the document was examined several weeks ago, it's been a mystery.

Initially, it appeared to be a reproduction of the terms and conditions of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee's surrender in Appomattox, Va., in 1865.

But staff members of the Civil War and Underground Railroad Museum in Center City - who came upon the document while preparing for the museum's relocation - soon noticed pen indentations in the paper, and darker and lighter ink strokes consistent with handwriting.

They also found a notation in a 1935 museum inventory identifying the document as an "original."

Could this artifact, crudely varnished and glued to cardboard, be one of the three known originals of the historic surrender terms?

Or is it a souvenir or military field copy produced and signed later?

Those are the questions historians and curators are now trying to answer. The discovery of Lee's missing copy would be a tremendous discovery for Civil War historians.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
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Thanks to Sunken Civ for the heads-up for the article on this historic find.
1 posted on 08/17/2008 6:18:11 PM PDT by indcons
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2 posted on 08/17/2008 6:18:28 PM PDT by indcons (People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news. - A. J. Liebling)
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3 posted on 08/17/2008 6:21:10 PM PDT by stainlessbanner
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4 posted on 08/17/2008 6:22:44 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (www.pinupsforvets.com)
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To: indcons

Many folks don’t realize that Appomattox was only Lee’s surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia... General Joseph Johnson still had a somewhat viable fore in NC and points south. The final terms that were agreed with Sherman and Johnston later in a little farmhouse outside of Durham, NC.


5 posted on 08/17/2008 6:26:56 PM PDT by nctexan
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6 posted on 08/17/2008 6:51:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: indcons

Probably not the Lee original. From what the article says, there’s no provenance, and no connection between Lee and the collector. Perhaps a “letterpress” copy (letterpress being an early form of copying similar to mimeographing) with some live strokes added.


7 posted on 08/17/2008 6:56:07 PM PDT by CivilWarguy
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To: nctexan
General Joseph Johnson still had a somewhat viable fore in NC and points south.

There were several other Confederate armies that surrendered even later than Johnston.

Taylor surrendered in Alabama on May 8.

The very last was Stand Watie on June 23 in what is now OK.

8 posted on 08/17/2008 7:24:05 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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To: indcons
Doubt if it is a copy of the official surrender. Would be even more interesting if it was a copy of the original draft or "gentleman's agreement" though.
9 posted on 08/17/2008 7:45:54 PM PDT by smokingfrog (He that lives upon hope will die fasting. - Ben Franklin)
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To: nctexan
Many folks don’t realize that Appomattox was only Lee’s surrender of the Army of Northern Virginia... General Joseph Johnson still had a somewhat viable fore in NC and points south.

Don't forget the forces in the west that surrendered later -- or not at all.

10 posted on 08/17/2008 8:21:36 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Sherman Logan

If you count naval forces, the CSS Shenandoah surrendered to the British on November 6 after circumnavigating the globe.


11 posted on 08/17/2008 9:03:31 PM PDT by fzx12345 (ZOTTO ERGO SUM)
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To: indcons; Buckhead; mikrofon; martin_fierro; PJ-Comix
I've seen it--I even was allowed to make a copy for my files (below). Call me a skeptic if you like, but I'm a little bit suspicious. I just can't put my finger on it, though. . . .

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Abilene, Texas

We of the South do hereby surrender to you of the North.

Signed,

Gen. Robert E. Lee (1807-1870)

12 posted on 08/17/2008 9:11:00 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Fake but accurate.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

LOL


13 posted on 08/17/2008 9:13:26 PM PDT by indcons (People everywhere confuse what they read in newspapers with news. - A. J. Liebling)
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To: Charles Henrickson

genius!! I love it. Thanks for a good laugh!


14 posted on 08/17/2008 9:42:27 PM PDT by edwinland
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To: Charles Henrickson

Calling Mr Rather...Mr Dan Rather...white courtesy straight jacket please


15 posted on 08/17/2008 10:15:01 PM PDT by tubebender (Why does a round pizza come in a square box?)
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To: nctexan

The final terms were agreed with the Trans-Mississippi Department - after Sherman/ Johnston [Taylor?]


16 posted on 08/17/2008 10:38:58 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: nctexan
The final terms that were agreed with Sherman and Johnston later in a little farmhouse outside of Durham, NC.

The original terms agreed upon between Sherman and Johnston were deemed too liberal by Lincoln. Grant had to visit Sherman and insist the terms be no more liberal than those given Lee. So, Sherman had to visit Johnston again...hat-in-hand.

17 posted on 08/18/2008 6:01:55 AM PDT by bcsco (Obama: SPINciple in chief!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Ha ha, you win the post of the day!


18 posted on 08/18/2008 6:09:11 AM PDT by HenpeckedCon (Deport them all... Let God sort them out!)
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To: Charles Henrickson; indcons; martin_fierro
In the same stash, they found this "authentic" daguerrotype of Lincoln at Gettysburg:


19 posted on 08/18/2008 7:02:37 AM PDT by mikrofon (Including my distant relative- Boom...)
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To: Charles Henrickson

“I’ve seen it—I even was allowed to make a copy for my files (below). Call me a skeptic if you like, but I’m a little bit suspicious. I just can’t put my finger on it, though. . . .”

Then one wonders if the surrender was even valid......


20 posted on 08/18/2008 7:05:41 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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