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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Shortstop7

McCain is doing great. Very sincere. Great sense of humor. Seems very honest...unliked BO.
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Yeppers


801 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: keepitreal

Crowd loved the DRILL NOW!!


802 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:20 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: Tennessee Nana
Gin whats that made from ???

Grain, I think. And juniper. I had a relation who was a moonshiner. I'm not sure just what went into his booze. But it was potent and cheap. And really illegal so he had to find another line of work after he was raided :)

803 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:22 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: modest proposal
I woulda asked Obama this question:

“What in the hell is wrong with you? Are you stumping for the care bears?”


hahahaha
thanks I needed that (:
804 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:24 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: mewzilla
One day I hope that General Petraeus will run for President.
805 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:33 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless President Bush and our brave troops)
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To: SoCalPol

Laura will rip the SC statements Monday for sure.

I thought from the beginning, this whole election was set up to push God-fearing people out of the process... giving us no place to go.


806 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:33 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: SoCalPol

DRILL!


807 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:36 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Tennessee Nana

I can’t believe how much better spoken McCain is than Obama. I think we are looking at our next President.


808 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:43 PM PDT by WesA
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To: newnhdad

Drill now

YES


809 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:44 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: dandelion

Yes! Drill here! Drill Now!


810 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:45 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (DRILL HERE-DRILL NOW-PAY LESS)
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To: dandelion
Wow, he’s actually sounding good to me. I’m weirding out here...

I know how you feel.

811 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:46 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

I think the crowd is more enthusiastic for his (real) answers than the Obama-pablum.


812 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:48 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: kcvl
Changing thoughts of 10 years ago....

Drilling for oil....YES!

813 posted on 08/16/2008 6:10:52 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: Son House
NO jacket.

814 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:03 PM PDT by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: newnhdad

You don’t need the booze... get up and fight!


815 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:07 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Yes, now I’m glad he went second. obama comes off as lightweight.


816 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:09 PM PDT by jackv
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To: AliVeritas

RW is asking a whole different set of questions of McCain!

It’s a set up! At least McCain is handling them well... so far.


817 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:09 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama: The Hype and Chains candidate)
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To: Bodhi1

“Offshore drilling.
We gotta drill now, and we gotta drill here...Caleeeefornia...
we gotta have nuclear power...”

He’s nailing it!


818 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:10 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Tennessee Nana

At least McCain said Drill Here Drill Now!!!!
He lost me a little when he added in the greenhouse gas comment though.


819 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:26 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Sounds intelligent and knowledgeable.


820 posted on 08/16/2008 6:11:28 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (My spiritual advisor is a lawyer.)
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