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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: WalterSkinner

they love killin those babies that might be a BURDEN.....


721 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:27 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: AliVeritas

Here’s the prayer thread for her Ali

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2062963/posts


722 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:29 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: They'reGone2000

Absolutly...Doubles even...eh...((;O)


723 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:34 PM PDT by pandemoniumreigns
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To: WalterSkinner

Saddleback

Brokeback

Just sayin...


724 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:51 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: Son House
Good to see Cindy there.

Michelle still MIA. (?)

725 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:55 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: TornadoAlley3
Hello,

You are kidding again, right?

Why am I not surprised, I have become disgusted with all media, including Fox, during the unending push of the O.

MOgirl

726 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:57 PM PDT by MOgirl (Prayers for my Mom, mother of Mid-West Warrior Princess....)
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To: HonestConservative

Popcorn...

Yeah there’s some left in the kitchen...

Swimming in Coke and coffee though...

Better enjoy it while I can...

Popcorn will cost more than a gal of Ethenol soon...


727 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:03 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: WalterSkinner

No, the pastor had to ask them to stand.


728 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:07 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: Califreak

Right outta the box! Gen. Ptraeus!!! YES!!!


729 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:37 PM PDT by patriotgal1787 ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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Petreus #1.
Yes!
730 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:37 PM PDT by XR7
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To: SE Mom

oh dear God McCain....

you mention Graham....

DON’t Dare say HE is one of the 3

PLZ


731 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:38 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: rabscuttle385

*clapclapclapclapclap*

utter crap!


732 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:40 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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To: patriotgal1787; Son House; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2062196/posts?page=332#332

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To: STARWISE

Page 87

http://www.ilga.gov/senate/transcripts/strans92/ST033001.pdf

Obama: And if we’re placing a burden on the doctor that says you have to keep alive even a previable child as long as possible and give them as much medical attention as — as is necessary to keep that child alive, then we’re probably crossing the lines in terms of unconstitutionality.

332 posted on Saturday, August 16, 2008 2:09:59 PM by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)


733 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:47 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: MOgirl

No, they mentioned a few cons as well, but overall O hit a homerun


734 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:54 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: tiredoflaundry
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735 posted on 08/16/2008 6:03:56 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Tennessee Nana
How do you get from religious tolerance to engaging in torture in the US without meaning Gitmo ????

By assuming that the treatment of terrorists at Gitmo was motivated by religious intolerance of Islam.

736 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:02 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: snippy_about_it

3 advisors- McCain...

Petraeus, Lewis, Meg Whitman...


737 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:25 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: eeevil conservative

I about had a heart attack....thought he was going to mention Graham.

Meg Whitman??


738 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:27 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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How about Jesus? He is the wisest person I know.


739 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:34 PM PDT by Bodhi1 (Homeschools for a reason.)
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To: eeevil conservative

He’s off to a good start. He’s actually answering the questions....unlike Obama.


740 posted on 08/16/2008 6:04:35 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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