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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: AmericanMade1776

Obama sure missed his teleprompter


701 posted on 08/16/2008 5:59:44 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: houeto

M and O

Big kissies huggies

Oh cant you just feel the love tonight ??????????


702 posted on 08/16/2008 5:59:55 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: AliVeritas

WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????

McCain comes up and they decide to break into someone TALKING about OBAMA!

brb—need to get my gun


703 posted on 08/16/2008 6:00:03 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Like your popcorn suggestion,

brb.

Glad I didn’t miss McCain.


704 posted on 08/16/2008 6:00:16 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: eeevil conservative

down eee, down..............


705 posted on 08/16/2008 6:00:26 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: eeevil conservative

No ties...another sad legacy of klintoon


706 posted on 08/16/2008 6:00:41 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: eeevil conservative

Several FReepers who find no problem with Obama being president have held back posting and commenting about him.
Am sure you will see them bashing McCain when he has his hr.


707 posted on 08/16/2008 6:00:42 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: XR7

..a standing O for Obama--Saddleback must be a real hotspot of conservatism...


708 posted on 08/16/2008 6:00:53 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Fox news analyzing Obama..smooth nimble, Romney like...
709 posted on 08/16/2008 6:00:56 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: Dog
I am kind of warming up to McCain....I’ll hold my nose and vote for him.

If I thought I could trust him, I would, too.

But if McCain wins, and he governs like he swears he will, I'll be happy to help myself to the biggest heaping helping of crow ever seen.

710 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:07 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: AliVeritas
Edit. Have you seen his thesis btw? I thought not. His clients list or records? Thought not.

No one has and no one ever will.......

711 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:09 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Toki

Maybe it is not that he looks like a Mortian, but Mortia on the Adams family


712 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:09 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: SoCalPol

naw. no way. ya think????? cough


713 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:18 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: The Worthless Miracle
McCain should have worn a tie.
At least he wore a blue shirt.

Oh, for the classy taste of RR!

714 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:19 PM PDT by XR7
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To: tiredoflaundry

oh BS!!!

time for McCain-— and they decide to cut off the show and TALK about OBAMA

save this crud for the end


715 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:34 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: Clemenza

Get my pie in the sky by and by. What’s up Clem... long time.


716 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:40 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: KavMan

The Audacity of Nope
Obama’s oil policy.

By Deroy Murdock

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDYzZmRhODdhNGVmZGUyNWNhZDM3NDEwNWMxODg1MjY=&w=MA==

But to pinpoint America’s offshore oil deposits, Congressional Democrats, starting with Senator Barack Obama, love disco-era maps. Despite his conditional, latter-day support for limited offshore drilling, Obama is the sole sponsor of legislation that would block geological research to locate offshore oil.

The resulting document states: “Resource estimates are highly dependent on the current knowledge base, which has not been updated in 20 to 40 years for areas under congressional moratorium. . . . ” Translation: “We have no idea what’s really out there.”

Obama’s “Oil SENSE Act” would repeal the 2005 Energy Policy Act’s authorization of these inventories. Introduced in January 2007, S.115 would leave decision makers with Carter Administration maps drawn with pre-PC technology.


717 posted on 08/16/2008 6:01:50 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: tiredoflaundry
No technology for drilling Obama

Obama's 2d to pinpoint America’s offshore oil deposits;

Federal officials currently employ estimates based primarily on two-dimensional,
black-and-white maps that oil-industry surveyors produced in the 1970s and furnished to the Interior Department.


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Obama’s bill would prohibit expanded use of 3-D,
color seismic techniques that locate and measure underwater oil deposits


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Satellites help find and quantify subsea deposits, track their flows,
and predict their next steps.


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718 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:04 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: WalterSkinner

They brought in the moonie contingent.


719 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:17 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Obama looks like a Mortician.

LOL. Or a tire pressure gauge....

720 posted on 08/16/2008 6:02:23 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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