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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: txflake
It’s obvious they’re brushing flour or baking powder into his hair to give him ‘experience’!

Not really.
He just neglected to use pomaide after he got out of the shower.

1,781 posted on 08/16/2008 8:42:44 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Tennessee Nana

I already watched it but I want the transcript to kick some lib ass.


1,782 posted on 08/16/2008 8:42:48 PM PDT by Moolah
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To: mnehrling
you don't go gray like that overnight

McCain's hair turned white almost overnight. Courtesy of some Vietnamese.

1,783 posted on 08/16/2008 8:43:02 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP! It's gonna be a BIG one.)
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To: rdl6989

Hopefully


1,784 posted on 08/16/2008 8:43:10 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: STARWISE

Let’s help ourselves and send some help

http://www.johnmccain.com/


1,785 posted on 08/16/2008 8:43:10 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a lot of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: txflake

You know when you get an e-mail at work and it is from someone who is trying to convince you that they are working and know what they are talking about by using too many words and flowery language, but you know they are blowing smoke? That’s what Obama reminds me of tonight.


1,786 posted on 08/16/2008 8:43:21 PM PDT by retrokitten ("That could be any mayor!" - Mayor Quimby)
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To: Moolah

We see evil in Darfur..


1,787 posted on 08/16/2008 8:43:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: txflake

I’ve noticed the hair change lately, too. Trying to be the ‘elder’ statesman?


1,788 posted on 08/16/2008 8:43:39 PM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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To: mnehrling

Right - a friend who runs a hair salon pointed out Obama’s fake gray to me months ago. He’s been dying his hair gray for months now - more photos will bear this out.


1,789 posted on 08/16/2008 8:43:58 PM PDT by drierice
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To: mnehrling
"Have you noticed that Obama's hair is now going gray?"

"You're not old, Father 'Bama," the young man said
"But your hair has become almost white
"And yet you incessantly stand on your head
"Do you think at your age this is right?"

"In my yute," Father 'Bama replied to the yute
"I feared it might injure the brain
"But now that I'm perfectly sure I have none"
"Why, I do it again and again"

Leni

1,790 posted on 08/16/2008 8:44:34 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home in Nov & Vote for Obama-ization, More Regulation, Taxation, Litigation and Ginsburgization)
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To: tobyhill

check out the Obama-K choral thread on here...Can you pst it here..it is hilarious and true!


1,791 posted on 08/16/2008 8:44:36 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: drierice

He must be going back and forth because last week, it wasn’t gray. Where is that photo of him boarding the airplane, I believe it wasn’t gray in that one either.


1,792 posted on 08/16/2008 8:44:57 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: drierice

SCOTUS question

Obama No to Thomas

not as strong enough legal leader


1,793 posted on 08/16/2008 8:45:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
Obama "if you making over 250,000 your doing well"


Last to know again, Obama lower tax rates increase revenues to the Government


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And we Americans would be very happy to cap income taxes at 15%, just
like the capitol gains Charlie Gibson Schooled you on



1,794 posted on 08/16/2008 8:45:46 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: RedRover

I just wanted to add your name to the winning thread for historical purposes.


1,795 posted on 08/16/2008 8:46:46 PM PDT by lilycicero (The darker the Barry....the grey-er the goose)
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To: Exit148

Yesterday he had no grey hair, that’s the point, his makeup guy is giving him fake gravitas!


1,796 posted on 08/16/2008 8:47:27 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: hocndoc
John McCain was... SOLID.
1,797 posted on 08/16/2008 8:47:38 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Norman Bates

Hey Norm

LOL


1,798 posted on 08/16/2008 8:48:26 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tramonto

I missed almost all of Obama’s presentation. On here I am reading over and over that he ‘hates’ Clarence Thomas .. is that what he said ? Rerun on now, maybe I’ll catch it


1,799 posted on 08/16/2008 8:50:07 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: txflake

Right! He is ‘gray’ when it is needed — and lately he feels he needs it. (or his handlers feel he needs it)


1,800 posted on 08/16/2008 8:50:15 PM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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