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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: REDWOOD99

Obama on stem cells “circumscribed mechanisms that were permitted”

What? Who could follow this intellect?


1,741 posted on 08/16/2008 8:31:13 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: All
WHAT A NIGHT!!!!!

McCain wins!.....Michael Phelps wins!

I do believe I'm getting the vapours. Where are my Lydia Pinkham powders?

Leni

1,742 posted on 08/16/2008 8:31:42 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home in Nov & Vote for Obama-ization, More Regulation, Taxation, Litigation and Ginsburgization)
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To: STARWISE

But no debate....can’t have that/sarc.


1,743 posted on 08/16/2008 8:31:46 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: All
I posted this on another thread, but I thought I would bring it up here.. have you noticed that Obama's hair is now going gray? I've been thinking about starting a vanity thread about it. I put money on the fact his new gray hair is a dye job to make him look older and 'experienced'.. you don't go gray like that overnight unless you are Moses (oh wait, mabye that is what he is going for..)
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1,744 posted on 08/16/2008 8:31:56 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: Marie2

Gut renching

WMD ????

do we know that the sunni and shiites will get along ???

Say what ????


1,745 posted on 08/16/2008 8:32:04 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Shelayne

(Grrr I hate that label—it is pro-ABORTION!)

~~~

One of my most furious gripes, as well.

It’s not just the bland sounding ‘choice;’
it’s the right to murder human babies.
All PR and marketing speak and sickening.


1,746 posted on 08/16/2008 8:32:06 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: MinuteGal
I do believe I'm getting the vapours.

LMAO!

1,747 posted on 08/16/2008 8:32:56 PM PDT by retrokitten ("That could be any mayor!" - Mayor Quimby)
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To: mnehrling

Worries

Responsibilities

He does look greyish though...


1,748 posted on 08/16/2008 8:33:53 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Barry needs another vacation and just stay there.
What a poor excuse for a human being


1,749 posted on 08/16/2008 8:33:54 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Don't Blame Me - I Supported Duncan Hunter)
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To: Salvation

Obama on Clarence Thomas “not a strong enough jurist or legal thinker”


1,750 posted on 08/16/2008 8:34:05 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: Salvation; antonius
Absolutely speaks volumes. I'll give antoninus credit.

After all, we'll all Spartacus, so to speak. :-}

1,751 posted on 08/16/2008 8:34:22 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (Obama (Marxist), Manchuria)
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To: SoCalPol

He’s so boring. Unsure of his words.


1,752 posted on 08/16/2008 8:34:39 PM PDT by retrokitten ("That could be any mayor!" - Mayor Quimby)
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To: All
Re 1744- look at the gray in his hair tonight versus just a few days ago in Hawaii.


1,753 posted on 08/16/2008 8:34:42 PM PDT by mnehring (http://www.heyobamababy.com/obama_baby_cool_cat.htm)
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To: seekthetruth
If you did not get to see the entire forum I believe it is going to be repeated tomorrow on C-Span

It's being rerun right now on FOX

1,754 posted on 08/16/2008 8:34:53 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a lot of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: Miss Didi; All

Heard that one .. great idea.

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1,755 posted on 08/16/2008 8:35:02 PM PDT by STARWISE (They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: SoCalPol

LOL

That’s what i said earlier...

After tonight he needs another vacation...


1,756 posted on 08/16/2008 8:35:02 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Earthdweller

I cannot believe this guy’s arrogance. He actually thinks he is smarter than Justice Thomas.


1,757 posted on 08/16/2008 8:35:09 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: AliVeritas

Refresh my memory. I thought Manning was the name of the pastor who took Wright’s place???


1,758 posted on 08/16/2008 8:35:37 PM PDT by del4hope (John McCain IS America's only "HOPE" for now.)
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To: maine-iac7

http://www.c-span.org/Watch/C-SPAN_wm.aspx


1,759 posted on 08/16/2008 8:35:45 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: mewzilla
That's not my only choice :)

Only McCain or Barry WILL become our president of the USA. There ain't no other "choice".
1,760 posted on 08/16/2008 8:36:35 PM PDT by parisa
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