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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: Theodore R.

Americans do NOT like reporters.


1,181 posted on 08/16/2008 6:44:11 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is hiding something about his birth, parents or name- but what?)
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To: scott says

This has been a stunning performance.


1,182 posted on 08/16/2008 6:44:26 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Tennessee Nana

Warren cut that off.

Hey, did Obama get asked about Darfur and Georgia?


1,183 posted on 08/16/2008 6:44:30 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: BCrago66

Former Senator Bill Frist TN doctor...

Been working all over the world ...


1,184 posted on 08/16/2008 6:44:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: AliVeritas

Yes he did. He said we needed everyone’s approval to intervene.


1,185 posted on 08/16/2008 6:44:59 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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To: 4yearlurker

He is now sounding reasonable...using the word “temper “ in war. He sure is proud of our country!

Now he is speaking to “women”...HELLO...Hillary girls!

Now he is talking about offering “ logistics, equipment”.

talking now globally about Georgia!


1,186 posted on 08/16/2008 6:45:20 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: All
How I see it... The question we hear over & over is "Who is Obama","Who is John McCain?

McCain stated his positions clearly, while Obama was umm umm umm wha wha wha......

Americans know McCain a little better and still remain confused about Obama.

1,187 posted on 08/16/2008 6:45:26 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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To: modest proposal

Wonderful!


1,188 posted on 08/16/2008 6:45:34 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: Bush gal in LA

1,189 posted on 08/16/2008 6:45:38 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: They'reGone2000

Again ... frink ... too canned, John .. cut it out.


1,190 posted on 08/16/2008 6:45:42 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: AliVeritas

No I think obama kept mentioning Darfur himself...

and that he would send troops there etc


1,191 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: mainepatsfan

I agree. I am still stunned... I’m no fan of McCain, but he just wiped the floor with Obama.

I can’t wait to see the media’s spin on this...


1,192 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:04 PM PDT by cpanter (Steyn is my Obamamania!)
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To: MHGinTN

Now there ya go!!!!


1,193 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:24 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.proudpatriots.org/www.woundedwarriorproject.org/www.moveamericaforward.org)
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To: Shortstop7
However, the choice is McCain or BO.

That's not my only choice :)

1,194 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:25 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: Sun

PING!


1,195 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:27 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: maica

ok he said territorial integrity.

Lets see what he says about a border fence.


1,196 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:33 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: cpanter

Ditto. I think they’re just as stunned as we are.


1,197 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:36 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: AliVeritas

McCain: “territorial integrity”

Obama was never so specific


1,198 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:47 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: elkfersupper
Rick Warren wrote a book that sold 25,000,000 copies


1,199 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:52 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: STARWISE

Georgia could be like Afghanistan when the russians were there...


1,200 posted on 08/16/2008 6:46:59 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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