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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: txflake
Has McCain mopped the floor with BHO?

Like a limp octopus.

1,141 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:04 PM PDT by They'reGone2000 (And I DON'T want to have to change my name to They'reBack2008!)
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To: TakeChargeBob

Exactly. How could the Dems spin verbatim, unedited, side-by-side answers from the two into a “negative campaigning” charge?


1,142 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:07 PM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions; keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: jwalsh07

Looks like he’s already regretting it too.


1,143 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:14 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: comebacknewt

The stories have already been written and submitted before McVain started his portion. They have the meme, they just need to expand it to fill the column space.


1,144 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:19 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: AmericanMade1776
Mccain is sneaking in a lot of stuff tonight...

I think he has kicked Obe's ass...

1,145 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:27 PM PDT by pandemoniumreigns
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To: They'reGone2000

After each question, Rick grumbles a begrudging “alright”.

Troubled is he? Barak not so intelligent, at 47, even as a liberal, he should have talked circles around McCain, James Carvelle would have(acknowledging the lack of sense Carvelle offers).


1,146 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:29 PM PDT by Son House ( [ ]Obama=>LoseBothWars/Raise Taxes [X]McCain=>WinBothWars/CutPorkBarrelSpending)
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To: mewzilla

I’m with you, mew.

Did the DaliBama get an immigration question?


1,147 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:37 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: modest proposal

I thought before the 250K tonight he mentioned “150,000 and below are middle class.” The volume was low cause he gets on my nerves, but I thought I heard him say that.


1,148 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:39 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is hiding something about his birth, parents or name- but what?)
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To: pgkdan

Can you believe this floppy eared moron actually taught constitutional law???

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Liberal institutions, especially in Chicago, will take anyone .. if they take Snowbama’s buds, Bernardine Dohrn and William Ayers.

And how DARE he compare himself academically to a intellectual giant like Scalia! Obama was an ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR in the law dept, unfit to breathe the same room oxygen as Scalia.


1,149 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:42 PM PDT by STARWISE ((They (Dims) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: txflake

One of the problems that McPain will face in the fall “debates” is that he can “win” them all, only to be declared the “loser” by the Oprah-led cheerleaders in the national media. The American people won’t know what to think.


1,150 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:46 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: They'reGone2000

lolol

I haven’t seen that pic before its funny


1,151 posted on 08/16/2008 6:40:51 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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To: TonyM

He finally won my vote. Bravo!


1,152 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:00 PM PDT by carmody
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To: WalterSkinner

DH for VP...


1,153 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:14 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: XR7

McCain sounds real good tonight, like he believes in conservative principles.


1,154 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:17 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Liberalism is service to the self disguised as service to others.)
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To: A_Niceguy_in_CA

Michael Phelps is in the Medley Relay for his 8th Gole Medal just about 11pm tonight.


1,155 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:24 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: comebacknewt

If America were paying attention, John McCain is proving ewhy he must be elected over the marxist anti-AMeircan pro-abortion, taxation regardless of representation democrap candidate, Barack Hussein Obama.


1,156 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: All
McCain is knocking them out of the park. I found myself shaking nodding my head up and down agreeing with almost all his answers. Barry Hussein looked like a little kid with text book answers.

Go McCain!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1,157 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:41 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Any day above ground is a good day.)
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To: Bodhi1

McCain did the two things that are mportant..well several
1. Get to the conservative base and get them fired up.
2. Talk to the average American in simple terms they can understand about their problems.
3. Make me feel safer that he can handle the foreign crises.


1,158 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:42 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: HonestConservative
The enemy of your enemy is your friend.

I am on board with that. McCain did alot to shore up his base tonight, IMO. Do not be shocked to see some of those reddish (as currently polled) states turn deep red.
1,159 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:47 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: Tennessee Nana
DH for VP...

works fer me!

1,160 posted on 08/16/2008 6:41:58 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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