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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: jwalsh07

It’s like a cocky young hitter coming up against a craft old junk ball pitcher.


1,101 posted on 08/16/2008 6:35:43 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Califreak

McCain is Reganesque tonight


1,102 posted on 08/16/2008 6:35:52 PM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: Califreak

Help!

I’m starting to like him!

@@@@@

LOL!

What’s not to like in this terrific performance!


1,103 posted on 08/16/2008 6:36:00 PM PDT by maica (Peace is the Aftermath of Victory)
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To: All

Obama is misery index

McCain is morning in america

if he plays this right it will be 1980 again.


1,104 posted on 08/16/2008 6:36:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: XR7
Who is Rick Warren?

Never heard of him.

1,105 posted on 08/16/2008 6:36:32 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Tennessee Nana; Guenevere

The amnesty issue’s a deal breaker for me. If McCain and Congress were to succeed in flushing our sovereignty down the dumper, what’s the rest of it going to matter?


1,106 posted on 08/16/2008 6:36:49 PM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: AliVeritas

A start-up and a broken heart. What about you?


1,107 posted on 08/16/2008 6:36:55 PM PDT by Clemenza (No Comment)
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To: Bodhi1

Like how McCain snuck that secret ballot in for Union Members.hahaha.


1,108 posted on 08/16/2008 6:36:59 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: mainepatsfan

Daring!

And the AP? Going to stick your neck out on that one?

(c;


1,109 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:03 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: KavMan
5 point bump in polls?

Not enough people watching, unfortunately. Plus, the MSM will do their best to spin this into a huge Obama victory by tomorrow morning.

It's up to us (and Rush and Hannity et al) to get the real news about tonight out.

1,110 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:09 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Guenevere
It's not a question of gullibility, it's a question of unbridled cynicism on your part.

OK, you don't like McCain. We get that.

Who are you gonna vote for? Obama? Bob Barr? Some loser like that?

Check out my tagline and think about it, ok?
1,111 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:14 PM PDT by mkjessup (If the choice is a suntanned Jimmy Carter or a Cranky Old Guy, I'm with the Cranky Old Guy)
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To: They'reGone2000

McCain even looks younger!


1,112 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:17 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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To: All

Good time to bring up Lincoln, FDR, Clinton.


1,113 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:24 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: longtermmemmory

Just got in, this looks good THANK GOD!

Has McCain mopped the floor with BHO?


1,114 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:25 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: AmericanMade1776
McCain is alert and sharp tonight, he has not missed a beat.

......and Obama looked like he had taken a couple of Quaalude.

1,115 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:26 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Roscoe Karns

A question that Obama did not get ?????

Privacy..

have to keep our secrets from our enemies

Yes


1,116 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: KavMan

He’s really on his game and you just know that he KNOWS what he’s talking about!


1,117 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:33 PM PDT by pgkdan (Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions - G.K. Chesterton)
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To: XR7

If this were a prizefight the referee would have ended it with a TKO.

Suggestion for the McCain Camp - Run ads (a separate ad for each question) showing the question and Obama’s answer followed followed by McCain’s answer.

No gimmicks - ask people to make the choice as to who would be best. The comparison makes the answer obvious.


1,118 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:34 PM PDT by TakeChargeBob
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

The enemy of your enemy is your friend.


1,119 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:35 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: hole_n_one

Obama looked like a lib-bot


1,120 posted on 08/16/2008 6:37:50 PM PDT by modest proposal (Congress (n). Place where you can be supported in comfort by the state to talk stupid)
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