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TODAY: Rev. Rick Warren puts Obama, McCain on the same stage (LIVE thread)
The Seattle Times ^ | 8/16/08 | Duke Helfand

Posted on 08/16/2008 11:59:35 AM PDT by XR7

LAKE FOREST, Calif. — When John McCain and Barack Obama appear on the same stage today, they will vividly demonstrate the reach that has made the Rev. Rick Warren among the most significant evangelists of his generation.

He's a megastar who leads the nation's fourth-largest church and reaches thousands of ministers through the Internet and crusades against poverty and AIDS. That globe-trotting work and his successful book — "The Purpose-Driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For?" — puts him at the vanguard of a movement that inspires young, socially conscious Christians.

But his willingness to soft-pedal political issues once central to U.S. evangelicals, such as opposition to abortion, has opened him to criticism that he has strayed from his calling to spread the Gospel.

Today's forum also is a sign of religion's importance in the 2008 presidential campaign, and the emergence of a new style of evangelical leadership on the national stage that is not tied to a single party and has broadened its social agenda beyond that of the religious right.

"This is absolutely a changing of the guard, and it suggests that the new guard of the evangelical movement is able to generate the attention and focus of both parties," said D. Michael Lindsay, a sociologist at Rice University and author of "Faith in the Halls of Power: How Evangelicals Joined the American Elite."

Warren personally invited the two candidates — "friends of mine" — via their cellphones. His event at the Saddleback Church will be broadcast live on CNN and Fox News Channel and streamed on the Web. It has among its aims "helping the church regain credibility and encouraging our society to return to civility," he said.

It's likely that fans and critics will be watching closely...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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To: tiredoflaundry

MY WORD!!

He is NAILING it!!

I cannot wait for the debates....

he has CREAMED Obama...

I LOVE the “my friends” touch!

BRILLIANT contrast to the elite Messiah


1,001 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:12 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (GIVE ME A PLACE TO STAND AND I WILL MOVE THE EARTH....Archimedes)
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To: They'reGone2000

He sure does. Tsk tsk.


1,002 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:14 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: XR7
Q: Which justices would you dump?"

A: "With all due respect, Justice Ginsburg..."

Tells it like it is!!!!!!

1,003 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:19 PM PDT by XR7
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To: HonestConservative
Thank-you...

..I'm feeling very ALONE on this thread...

..It's turning into a love fest....Sheeesh

Are you all so gullible?

1,004 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:29 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: XR7

Maybe Warren said no ties.


1,005 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:46 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama is hiding something about his birth, parents or name- but what?)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Stevens, Breyer base our courts on what other countries do... umm... that’s why we left.

Ginsie is just insane period. 12 year old girls, sex? Come on.


1,006 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:56 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: XR7

YES!


1,007 posted on 08/16/2008 6:27:59 PM PDT by Califreak (Time to give the empty suits a one way ticket to the cleaners!)
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To: All

Time to irritate the neighbors!

http://store.johnmccain.com/


1,008 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:02 PM PDT by flyfree
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To: Guenevere

Lighten up, Francis.


1,009 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:12 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (QMC(SW) USN........ CG21 DD988 FFG34 PC6 ARS53)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Who else thought we were going to get a “In all do respect I can’t name names...yada yada instead of him actually calling these libs out-WOW!


1,010 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:16 PM PDT by icwhatudo
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To: Shortstop7
Anyone else think Warren’s enthusiasm has dimmed? He looked a little troubled as they went to commercial.

Yes, Warren's eyes were darting quickly to the left and right -- it seemed to me that he didn't think McCain would be doing as good as he is.

1,011 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:25 PM PDT by ShoreMark
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To: Tennessee Nana
NANA!!!!!??....What about illegals....you know, illegals!
1,012 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:28 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: mewzilla

I wish I could to.

Wonder if there is an immigration question in his future?


1,013 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:30 PM PDT by HonestConservative (There certainly must be radio in heaven, or at least a rock band.)
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To: eeevil conservative

Grand Slam...

:)


1,014 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:32 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: STARWISE

If the worst you can find to complain about is his term “Friends”, he doesnt’ have much to worry about.


1,015 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:44 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Califreak

I’m stunned. This is a great performance.


1,016 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:47 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: They'reGone2000

Evil? DEFEAT IT!


1,017 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:56 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: pepperhead

I will... if I have to go get it.

I have friends in low places.


1,018 posted on 08/16/2008 6:28:57 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Principalities work through personalities.Commies cast out only by prayer and fasting.)
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To: icwhatudo
icwhatudo wrote: Balls out names names of Judges he would not nominate! WOW!!!

And he did it without one Uh uh uh uh..or stutter, unlike Obama who could hardly remember their names.

1,019 posted on 08/16/2008 6:29:05 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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To: eeevil conservative

He keeps telling stories which show his has “experience”. Obama on the other hand....


1,020 posted on 08/16/2008 6:29:10 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (Stay Away FAY!)
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