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Russian tanks enter central city: Georgian official
cbcnews.ca ^ | August 13, 2008 | CBC News

Posted on 08/13/2008 2:09:24 AM PDT by HarryCaul

The head of Georgia's national security council said Wednesday Russia has sent 50 tanks into the central Georgian city of Gori, despite an agreed-upon ceasefire calling on both sides to retreat to positions they held before fighting began six days ago.

Security council head Alexander Lomaia said that the tanks entered Gori about 9:45 a.m. local time, but there was no independent confirmation of his claim.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Russia
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; georgia; gori; russia; war
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Because if we don’t Russian troops will be on the borders of Israel.


181 posted on 08/13/2008 8:34:22 AM PDT by Camel Joe (liberal=socialist=royalist/imperialist pawn=enemy of Freedom)
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To: Camel Joe

Because if we don’t Russian troops will be on the borders of Israel.
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With all this talk of the US pulling out of Iraq they will

have a good start on it,,,

In a month it could be Russia in control of the Straits of

Hormuz,,,

At this point there is nothing in Russia’s way to stop them

if Iran is not taken out now,,,

They are still pouring troops/tanks/etc. into Georgia for a reason...


182 posted on 08/13/2008 8:55:59 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: cookcounty

Not sure, but I think they are. Condi Rice is enroute shortly as well I heard.


183 posted on 08/13/2008 9:07:10 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Yes, humanitarian assistance coming in via C17. This is going to be a bit sticky because you know the Russians don’t want Stingers getting in there. I only wish we were as devious as the Russians and had some Stingers coming in.


184 posted on 08/13/2008 9:09:37 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: rbmillerjr

Russians are doing the same exact thing the Serbians did to the Bosnians and Kosovars. Infact, it is widely reported the Russians were running the show and sending troops to both of those conflicts. There were a lot of freepers on here claiming that the Serbs were christians and it was wrong we attacked them. Well, just because they have a Christian presence in the country doesn’t make them choir boys. China, Russia, and other oppressive states have churches, but they are state sanctioned and doesn’t mean that they act like christians. Muslims in kosovo, particulary Albanians have always been on our side. This is the kind of brutality that the Russians/Serbs/Iranians and their allies can unleash on civilian populations. Russians and the Serbs have always been known for their gross human rights violations during conflict.


185 posted on 08/13/2008 9:40:15 AM PDT by 82ndABNOfficer
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To: HarryCaul
Wow...those Russian сынки сук are asking for it. The US and NATO need to send troops in and help the Georgians, and after that suspend Russia from the G8. And then someone needs to take out Iran. Stop the Iranian nuke machine before it destroys Israel and takes the ME oil fields for the ayatollahs' Russian masters.
186 posted on 08/13/2008 9:46:31 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: G8 Diplomat

“And then someone needs to take out Iran. Stop the Iranian nuke machine before it destroys Israel and takes the ME oil fields for the ayatollahs’ Russian masters.”

The Israelis can handle that themselves. They have 300-500 nukes, we don’t need to get involved.

“Wow...those Russian (blankety blanks) are asking for it. The US and NATO need to send troops in and help the Georgians, and after that suspend Russia from the G8.”

Why do we have to keep doing the European’s jobs for them so they can keep funding money into their socialist welfare programs? If they can build something like the A380 and beat Boeing for a tanker contract, they have the capability to assist Georgia if it’s really that important. We don’t need to get involved.


187 posted on 08/13/2008 10:25:35 AM PDT by neutronsgalore (Tagline currently under reconstruction at the request of the Admin Moderator.)
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To: neutronsgalore

I wouldn’t say we need to get involved, but I don’t have confidence that the Europeans will handle it themselves. Yes they’re capable of handling it, but so far they’ve done nothing. Only Turkey and Ukraine have given aid and electricity to Georgia.


188 posted on 08/13/2008 10:29:40 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: G8 Diplomat

U.S. MILITARY DOES NOT PLAN TO TAKE CONTROL OF GEORGIAN PORTS, A 13 Aug 2008 17:17:40 GMT
Source: Reuters
U.S. MILITARY DOES NOT PLAN TO TAKE CONTROL OF GEORGIAN PORTS, AIRPORTS FOR AID MISSION-PENTAGON


189 posted on 08/13/2008 10:30:55 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E. That spells free. freerepublic.com baby)
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To: HarryCaul
Is it correct that the South Ossetians are Muslims?

That is something that it seems the news is intentionally ommitting.

It is like they are presenting it as there are all of these people that just have to be fighting with religion having nothing to do with it when religion may have something to do with it, not sure.

190 posted on 08/13/2008 11:40:06 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
Is it correct that the South Ossetians are Muslims?

No! They are ethnic Russians, perhaps a bit of Serb or whatever, but Christians.

If you recall, the takeover and bombing of a school by Islamic terrorists took place in N. Ossetia.(located in Russia)

191 posted on 08/13/2008 11:48:42 AM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: Cold Heat

I believe they dominant ethnicity of S.Ossetia is Persian Christian.


192 posted on 08/13/2008 11:52:59 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("bigger government means constricting freedom"....................RWR)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
It is like they are presenting it as there are all of these people that just have to be fighting with religion having nothing to do with it when religion may have something to do with it, not sure.

What's being omitted in the reporting is that the Newsies are not putting the blame where it belongs, and it's not a religious issue, it's a issue of who is your daddy. The S. Ossetians are acting under Russian authority and not the authority of the country where they are located. This is done to keep Georgia off balance and in turmoil and for no other reason.

193 posted on 08/13/2008 11:53:23 AM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: Cold Heat
Thanks for clearing this up. Christians fighting Christians here, not sure what they are really all fighting for.

Makes no sense to me.

I guess it is sovereignty and control.

194 posted on 08/13/2008 11:53:38 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Cold Heat
So essentially the South Ossetians are terrorists, just they are non-Muslim?
195 posted on 08/13/2008 11:55:43 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: rbmillerjr
Yes, perhaps Persian via Turkey in ages past.They are darker complected in any case, but owe no allegiances to where ever it is that they originally came from by my understanding.

My own ethnicity is from farther South and is more Serbian as my grandmother came from Sarajevo and my grandfather from somewhere in Georgia and both orthodox roman catholic. They left in 1921 as a result of the last Russian invasion.

196 posted on 08/13/2008 11:58:40 AM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: Cold Heat
I don't understand why Georgia's takeover of South Ossetia would have been justified though.

I don't know if the south Ossetians can be referred to as terrorists or not.

I am unsure why this fighting and killing is going on.

I don't understand this at all. I don't want to suggest that I know what side is right in this or least wrong, I don't.

197 posted on 08/13/2008 12:01:20 PM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
No, not terrorists.....just badly mislead for political reasons and old long held grudges against Georgians because the Georgians view them as Russian sympathizers and they can't seem to get along or get over it since 1921.

The Russians use this fact and keep them stirred up for their own reasons.

They are Good people, but they are being used as pawns in a much larger game.

198 posted on 08/13/2008 12:03:39 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
I don't understand why Georgia's takeover of South Ossetia would have been justified though.

Georgia has every right to this area. It is theirs and no person or the U.N. disputes this.

The S. Ossetians have been instigating and goading the Georgians for years, and under normal circumstances, the government would have taken control in 1921, but because the Russians continue to play this game of chess by using the Ossetian pawns as excuses to invade, Georgians cannot bring closure to this mess. You can see what happened when they tried, and it immediately escalated from a roundup of some criminal thugs with Russian guns into a international incident.

199 posted on 08/13/2008 12:10:20 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
I don't want to suggest that I know what side is right in this or least wrong, I don't.

All I can do is inform you of the background of this, but really it's more a simple matter of sovereignty. The Georgian government has been prevented from controlling what is a increasingly hostile area in it's own territory. This situation exists for only one purpose and that is to allow Russia to control the State of Georgia by not allowing it to end this. So as a result the country stays i a state of constant agitation and cannot proceed beyond it, no matter how hard it tries or how much help it gets.

You must have a stable political environment to grow and prosper, and Russia simply will not allow this to happen simply because it is not in Russia's interest to have a stable Democracy on it's doorstep..

200 posted on 08/13/2008 12:19:40 PM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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