Posted on 08/08/2008 7:58:45 AM PDT by WilliamReading
CBSNews.com: So, Tom Ridge, who's been discussed. You think …
Richard Land: That would be a catastrophe.
CBSNews.com: Who’s on the list of people mentioned for VP that you think would most excite Southern Baptists and other members of the conservative faith community?
Richard Land: Probably Governor Palin of Alaska, because she's a person of strong faith. She just had her fifth child, a Downs Syndrome child. And there's a wonderful quote that she gave about her baby, and the fact that she would never, ever consider having an abortion just because her child had Downs Syndrome. She's strongly pro-life.
CBSNews.com: And what about Mitt Romney?
Richard Land: I think Mitt Romney would be an excellent choice. There are people in the evangelical community who would have a problem with his Mormonism. I am not one of them. I mean, I'm very clear that I do not believe Mormonism is a Christian faith. But that does not disqualify someone from being President or Vice President. And my guess would be that, probably, about 15 to 20 percent of the evangelical community would have a problem with his Mormonism.
I'll tell you another choice that I think would ring a lot of bells among evangelical and Catholic social conservatives, and I think could have some real electoral punch to it, is Eric Cantor, the congressman from Richmond. He's the fourth highest person in the House leadership. He is a conservative, observant Jew, a one hundred percent pro-life voting record. And if he picked Cantor, that would probably help hold Virginia. And it would increase McCain's percentage of the Jewish vote in Florida and Pennsylvania and New Jersey.
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You’re out of line. I answered your question several times. It was in the RomneyCare bill. Who else do you think signed it but Romney?
I’ll tell you another choice that I think would ring a lot of bells among evangelical and Catholic social conservatives, and I think could have some real electoral punch to it, is Eric Cantor, the congressman from Richmond.
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Whoever this guy is, he’s part right...
But to mention conservative Congressman Eric Cantor and RINO Romney in the same breathe ???
He’s pro-choice as the pro-death people like to call themselves.
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Like Romney is...
have been wondering why a non Christian Jew, Eric Cantor, is getting a push from those who will not accept Mitt Romney as a candidate
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Maybe because Congressman Eric Cantor has many years experience in the public sector, while Romney only has a couple of years as a gov...
Cantor is pro-life, while Romney is an abortion pusher ???
Cantor is conservative and RINO Romney leans left ????
Cantor is young, while long in the tooth Romney is old enough to be his father ???
Cantor is good to look at while Romney is hagged and wrinkled..like an aged matinee idol...
Cantor is consistant, while Romney changes his mind with his socks and the weather...
Cantor has integrity, Romnbey has $250 Million...
Cantor’s base are Americans and act decent, while Romneybots are abusive and nasty bullies and namecalling thugs and keep trying to shove that liberal down our throats...and have turned most FReepers off..
Cantor is a man, while Romney is just a “victim”
Pick any of the above...
The serious question remains. Would the Evangelical segment of the party ever support a nominee for President that thinks they are 100% WRONG in their choice of religion?
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Gooooooooood question...
“You’re out of line. I answered your question several times. It was in the RomneyCare bill. Who else do you think signed it but Romney?”
Are you capable of giving a yes or no answer on this? WAS THE TAX-PAYER ABORTION CLAUSE IN THE DANGED BILL AT THE TIME THAT ROMNEY SIGNED IT OR NOT? I admit that I am nclear on how that can be considered “out of line.” If you would just answer the blasted question rather than obfuscate, this conversation could have been over and done with many posts ago.
Still I wait. Yes or no. I really don’t care one way or the other anymore, I would just like some damned honesty out of you.
Eric Cantor is a right-winger, intelligent, young, Jewish and an attack dog extraordinaire.
Sounds like Mountainfolk is playing the persecution card.
While Jews aren't Christian, they certainly don't demand that Christians accept their late desire to be called such, and I haven't seen the Jews send out thousands yearly to proslytize and tell Christians that their religion is false and "of the devil".
"With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world."
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 8, p. 199
Evangelicals are free to vote their conscience regardless of the Mitt supporters who want to cast them as bigots. Don't forget the lockstep mormons voting 90% for Romney, and we're told THAT isn't bigotry.
In my 60 years, I have yet to meet a Jew who has told me that I am going to Hell...
But I’ve been told by a few mormons that...
I am going to Hell,
I have to have a mormon husband to call me out of the grave,
If I dont agree that “heaven” is one big orgy, and human breeding factory, I am going to Hell...
No wonder I get on so well with Jews...
I have a problem with Romney because he isn’t conservative on Health Care, he isn’t conservative on gay rights, he is a waffling conservative on pro-life. Also the guy couldn’t win with a head start and tons of cash. He probably spent more than anyone else in the race and still lost. The same goes for Huckabee. Both are losers of the worst sort. They are polarizing losers. Both spent a lot of time talking like Democrats and both were rejected even though the press was cheer leading for Huckabee giving him more positive press than any of the real conservative candidates so as to screw us conservatives and in some ways they did.
According to the bible Jews are God's chosen people.. Accordeing to the same Bible Mormons are not!!! Could that be the reason?
Exactly even if he was a good choice he’d never win a Presidency on his own. McCain needs someone who can boost and defend him without overshadowing him. Cantor would be perfect.
Personally I’ve been thinking it might be a good idea for him to choose his old friend Fred though nobody in the media is mentioning him. A couple old cowboys riding out for a last battle has something to it. It would be a safe pick and a pick that the party insiders would hate but I think the rank and file could rally around. It certainly wouldn’t hurt him. He needs someone who knows him and he is comfortable with and brings out the best in him. His Presidential run would’ve been over without him.
It IS Mitt supporters who are hiding their heads in the sand regarding the negatives presented by Mitt's religion. I have a hard time understanding how Romney supporters can believe the racist past of the LDS church will be ignored by the campaign of a black candidate.
Until 1978 it was the policy and practice of the Mormon church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) to bar those with black African ancestry (even partial) from admission to the Mormon priesthood, which otherwise was open to all (non-black) male members of the church. This ban also applied to keep black members of the church from participation in the sacred temple ceremonies which Mormon doctrine says are necessary for admission to the highest degrees of the Celestial Kingdom. In other words, blacks would never get as high a place as members of other races in Mormon heaven.
Mormon theologians justified this racial prejudice by claiming that the black race is descended from Cain, who was cursed and marked (supposedly with a black skin; Genesis 4:8-15). His descendants, through Ham, the son of Noah who was also cursed (Genesis 9:18-27), continued to bear the mark (black skin) and the curse, in the Mormon view. This ban was further justified by reference to the Mormon belief in a great War in Heaven before the creation of the world, when the forces of good overcame the forces of evil; Mormons believe that one's position at birth in this life is determined by one's valiance in that struggle. Those human beings who were born to privileged and prosperous white Mormons were obviously very valiant. Blacks were (just as obviously) less valiant.
“When all the other children of Adam have had the privilege of receiving the priesthood and of coming into the Kingdom of God and of being redeemed from the four quarters of the earth, and have received their resurrection from the dead, then it will be time enough to remove the curse from Cain and his posterity.”
- Prophet Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, v. 2, pp. 142-143; online at http://journals.mormonfundamentalism.org/Vol_02/refJDvol2-27.html
This campaign is heavily race infused already. McCain choosing Romney would just hand the dems another race talking point, and neutralize the Wright negative.
As much as some would wish otherwise, voters are free to vote for OR against a candidate for whatever reason, including questioning the judgement of a candidate that believes that God was once a man.
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“I have a hard time understanding how Romney supporters can believe the racist past of the LDS church will be ignored by the campaign of a black candidate.” A religion who’s adherents believe that some star named Kolob —named by a ninteenth century conman with his face buried in a hat gazing at a peepestone making prophecies— has a planet orbiting it where the Creator of the Universe lives in His celestial body siring trillions of spirit children for infusion into human bodies is steeped in ‘magic thinking’. It isn’t even a strretch to see such people will swallow the kool-aid and believe any lie needed to promote a man from their ranks. Denial is also a river in Egypt. Mitt’s religious fellows choose to be ignorant of the reality their peculiar religion incites and the racial prejudices of their past is but one of their rivers of ignorance.
VP is no more 24/7 than governor. Would you have her step down from that post, too? She returned to work as governor shortly after Trig was born, but was able to bring him to work with her.
Do you have any idea of the perks that come with high office? They allow the individual, Palin or anyone who holds the position, more time to be with their children than the mother who holds down an office/plant job.
Some people are able to do two things very well simultaneously. Palin doesn’t need mothering advice from Keyboard Kommandos.
I’m a Southern Baptist, and I’ve never heard of him. Who is he and why should I care?
The most important and pertinent is that Cantor has an actual real life long Conservative record. No excuses, no "personally pro life" but taking pro choice stands on public policy, Cantor stands on principal. That above anything else is what is important, we support Cantor over Mitt because Eric is a CONSERVATIVE.
It also answers your "blackmail" point which is laughable at best. It is not 9 million Evangelicals(low number there BTW) that are against Mitt because of his faith, indeed many like him, it is millions of CONSERVATIVES for whom he either has not made his case or they have finally paid attention to he record instead of his rhetoric. His stances are more than enough to dismiss him as an ideal candidate, period.
Now for the rest, for me, and this is me personally though it maybe for others as well, and is not nearly as important as the political issue, the issue with Mitt's faith is it's very nature. Jews are Jews, they follow biblical truth, they are a part of our historical linage. Jews are Jewish, and pretend to be nothing else, as are Buddhist and even Muslims (not that I would want either of the latter in office).
Not so LDS. They claim to be the only Christian Faith, indeed their leaders reject the rest of us as Gentiles, and yet follow something so alien to the true Christian faith that for them Christianity is almost a mask. To make matters worse they feign insult and demand to be treated as fellow Christians, whilst in their very sacraments basically damn the lot of us as followers of false doctrine. There is no hypocrisy in supporting Cantor, he comes from a noble faith, not a fantasy.
There is something else. People of the Jewish faith are our friends and treat us as such, indeed many of these "bigots" your team keeps assailing hail from Churches that hold Israel and it's people in high regard.
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