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No bubble! No bubble! This is different!
1 posted on 08/05/2008 8:40:13 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle
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The price of oil is high because it is God’s will. Ben should stop questioning God’s will and pray that it be done insted.


2 posted on 08/05/2008 8:46:05 AM PDT by Soliton (> 100)
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Let’s hope we can get some drilling legislation passed before it declines too much, or it’ll never happen!


3 posted on 08/05/2008 8:46:21 AM PDT by rivercat
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I really do like Ben Stein. His writing is usually clear, and his points are usually ones with which I agree.

But here, he seems to adopt an odd writing style. It's all: I could be wrong, and maybe it's not a good example but ... and maybe it's the wrong comparison, and on the other hand ...

It doesn't sound like he has faith in this article. Maybe he got squeezed by a deadline and just had to dash something off.

4 posted on 08/05/2008 8:48:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Et si omnes ego non)
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Ben Stein Get’s it bump!


5 posted on 08/05/2008 8:49:58 AM PDT by roaddog727 (BS does not get bridges built - the funk you see is the funk you do)
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One of the reasons it will remain somewhat high is because the Fed devalued the dollar to deal with the housing “crisis.”


6 posted on 08/05/2008 8:50:06 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard
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Ha!

Ben is a very wise guy.


7 posted on 08/05/2008 8:51:19 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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Wonder if Ben is so confident that he’s shorting oil?


8 posted on 08/05/2008 8:53:37 AM PDT by DManA
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To: rightinthemiddle
bumper-sticker
 
 

Contact your Congress critters to let them know that you are tired of high gas prices.

U. S. Senate

U. S. House of Representatives

9 posted on 08/05/2008 8:54:09 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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The price of crude may keep falling right up to the time the Israelis strike Iran’s nuclear facilities...I wouldn’t start polishing that muscle car sitting in the garage just yet...


13 posted on 08/05/2008 8:58:00 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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As long as oil remains a monopoly, we will continue to pay ridiculous prices for it. Give it a competitor and watch it drop to $60 a barrel. Refuse to give it a competitor, and you’ll see $145 again before you see $100.


15 posted on 08/05/2008 8:59:53 AM PDT by mysterio
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Speaking as another dumb luck investor who decided wrongly to short oil when I thought there was a bubble, and subsequently lost 97% of my investment, I am very tired of people trying to call a bottom or a top in this market.

Yes, I do believe that for a short period of time, that there was a bubble when investors fled from equities and went into commodities to collect some gains.

Investment houses and their respective hedge funds led the way, and everybody piled in behind them. This has now reversed, and they are going back to equities, but it all can easily reverse again, and again.

Putting aside perceptions, true, false or otherwise, the reality is that we are finding far less new oil and what we are finding is largely sour crude, and not the sweet stuff that our aged refineries can process. Emerging markets will continue to emerge as they now have tasted some degree of prosperity in the form of better food and transport, and transport still needs gasoline, as it will for the foreseeable future.

Oil prices will not hold long at the lower levels, and the resistance at 120 dollars per BBL appears to be holding up. As China's requirements drop in the post Olympic period, there will be a lot of pressure to drop beyond 120, but the hurricane season is only now getting cranked up and the smallest disruption will cause a huge jump in price. Iran, and the entire Middle East is still volatile and anything occurring there will cause a return to the 140-145 level and beyond. $200.00 is still in play this year and beyond.

As for me, I will never again short oil. I don't recommend that anyone does.

18 posted on 08/05/2008 9:03:29 AM PDT by Cold Heat (NO! (you can infer any meaning you choose))
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The price of oil in dollars was recently up by roughly 50% since the beginning of the year. In dollars, it was up roughly 100% recently compared to a year ago. Now, to be sure, much of that has been caused by the fall of the dollar in international markets.

Not a single politician, pub or donk, will mention the weak dollar. I wonder why.

26 posted on 08/05/2008 9:12:37 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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Thats’ right it is. Just because a price goes up and then it goes down doesn’t mean it’s a bubble.


31 posted on 08/05/2008 9:22:41 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE - http://freenj.blogspot.com - RadioFree NJ)
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I take back all those hateful things I said about Ben having lost his marbles over his ‘darling boy’s’ absolute possession of his good common sense and his dalliance with the charms of and fascination with Hollywood these past 12 years; the old boy has finally come to his senses at last.


32 posted on 08/05/2008 9:22:44 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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Oil is an interesting issue when taken in light of the history of salt.
36 posted on 08/05/2008 9:30:30 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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Oil is "only" up very roughly 15% in euros, which might make for a cleaner comparison with the past.

Very important point. I've said here on any number of occasions that "rising energy costs" are primarily a currency problem, not an "energy" problem.

39 posted on 08/05/2008 9:36:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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“Wait. I take that back. There has been one huge new factor. A staggering rise in purchases by speculators of contracts for future delivery of oil. This has been a new and gigantic effect in the market. This same effect gave us a bubble in high tech. It gave us a bubble in gold and silver about thirty years ago.”

I agree with Ben. There is an old explanation for a rapid rise a particular stock, or stock in an industry, or a rise in the entire stock market: Too many dollars chasing too few shares. And the stock or industry segment, or the entire market becomes: “overvalued”.

That has happened when some stock or segment becomes the next big thing, or when large amounts of foreign money, or money from lower yielding investments begins to flow into the stock market in large amounts.

No reason we can’t have too many dollars chasing too few crude oil futures contracts. So, the futures market can raise the price of crude independent of the actual supply and demand for crude.

This could happen and be entirely legal, or, as discussed in a thread a few weeks back, schemes to allow some trading entities to purchase more contracts that intended can allow big money buyers a bigger stake in the futures market than regulators intended.


45 posted on 08/05/2008 9:49:35 AM PDT by Will88
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It only went as high as it did due to a huge short position by SemGroup. It was the 2nd largest commodity loss in history ($3.2B), but you haven’t seen any news of it in the MSM. See http://www.investmentrarities.com/weeklycommentary.html


46 posted on 08/05/2008 9:51:50 AM PDT by Rockitz (NObama 2008- Strange we ain't believin')
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Ben is not much of an economist. I have read some of his recent economic writings, including this one, and they are not very well thought out and many of them are just plain wrong and leftist (calling for higher taxes and wealth redistribution in some of them).


49 posted on 08/05/2008 10:01:06 AM PDT by HwyChile
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