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Stressed banks borrow record amount from Fed[$16 Billion A Day]
Reuters ^ | 31 July 2008 | John Parry

Posted on 08/02/2008 7:20:16 AM PDT by BGHater

Banks borrowed a record amount of funds from the Federal Reserve in the latest week as the year old credit crisis took a persistent toll, while the commercial paper market continued to contract, signaling tough conditions for short term borrowers.

Banks' primary credit borrowings averaged $17.45 billion per day in the latest week, the second straight week this had hit a record and up from $16.38 billion the previous week, Fed data showed on Thursday.

"It shows there's a shortage of liquidity in the system," said Christopher Low, chief economist at FTN Financial in New York.

Secondary credit the Fed extended, which is usually taken out by banks in need of emergency cash, rose to $89 million in the latest week, from $34 million the week before. Although these numbers are still very small compared with primary credit, "What that tells you is that there's an increasing number of banks that the Fed is classifying as 'unsound' or inadequately capitalized," Low said.

Analysts may watch the trend of secondary credit closely, given the travails of U.S. regional and smaller banks and the likelihood that a continued decline in house prices and rise in foreclosures and bad loans will deepen the difficulties of the banking sector for many months or years.

Some analysts ascribed the overall rise in demand to use the Fed's short term discount window borrowing facilities to a mix of factors.

"I am sure there are troubled banks trying to tap the window," said Michael Feroli, U.S. economist with JPMorgan in New York. But he added: "more and more banks are trying to take advantage of the pure economic advantage of borrowing at a cheap rate and you are seeing a gradual fading away of the stigma of using the discount window."

(Excerpt) Read more at biz.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: banking; banks; borrow; credit; economy; fed; govwatch; housingbubble
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1 posted on 08/02/2008 7:20:17 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater; ex-Texan; TigerLikesRooster

2 posted on 08/02/2008 7:27:44 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: BGHater

It shows there’s a shortage of liquidity in the system,” said Christopher Low, chief economist at FTN Financial in New York

ya think??!!


3 posted on 08/02/2008 7:36:39 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al qaeda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: BGHater
"It shows there's a shortage of liquidity in the system," said Christopher Low, chief economist at FTN Financial in New York.

How about a shortage of solvency?

Total bank deposits = $6.84 trillion.
Actual bank cash on hand = $273 billion.
FDIC insurance fund = $53 billion.

Ninety banks were on the FDIC problem list a month ago - IndyMac wasn't one of them.

We're in shark-infested waters...

4 posted on 08/02/2008 7:38:32 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I had a conversation with one of the FDIC people a couple of weeks ago while in IndyMac to get my money out.

In think it is incumbent on banks to stay solvent and OFF the watch list. And therefore I think the consumer has a right to see the watch list.


5 posted on 08/02/2008 7:44:30 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

What you don’t show is all the money that is being put to work rather than being stuffed in mattresses and buring in tomato cans.


6 posted on 08/02/2008 8:05:42 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I’m not worried, the FDIC will cover it all, right? Right?


7 posted on 08/02/2008 8:14:23 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (est deus in nobis)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
How about a shortage of solvency?

What is the perfect ratio of cash on hand to bank deposits?

8 posted on 08/02/2008 8:17:22 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
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To: Moonman62
Yes, put to work in structured investment vehicles and other types of Level Three assets that can't be adequately valued. Merrill Lynch just liquidated 30 billion in bonds at a fifth of their face value.

Fractional reserve lending is fine at 8 to 1 or even 12 to 1 - at 30 to 1 it poses a massive risk to the solvency of the entire system. It's not the concept that's at fault, it's that these guys pushed it way beyond the limits of safety just to keep making their quarterly numbers.

9 posted on 08/02/2008 8:18:05 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I say no more than 10 to 1. Others may have more taste for risk.


10 posted on 08/02/2008 8:23:50 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Countries likes Canada don't require any reserves at all. And we'll eventually go to such a system.

Of course you ignore all the good areas where money has been put to work that's made our country strong over the past 200+ years. That's why people like you prefer to stay here to mischaracterize our financial system and bitch rather than moving somewhere else.

11 posted on 08/02/2008 8:38:39 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: BGHater

what about brokerage firms?


12 posted on 08/02/2008 8:53:08 AM PDT by Flavius (war gives peace its security)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

It’s not the concept that’s at fault, it’s that these guys pushed it way beyond the limits of safety just to keep making their quarterly numbers.


Typical of American thinking in the last 25 years. Spin the problem, make poor decisions that look good in the short term, declare victory, get promoted—and leave the poor schmuck who comes after you holding the bag.

Of course, in line with the above, that forces the next poor schmuck to make even DUMBER decisions to stay afloat. And so it goes.....


13 posted on 08/02/2008 9:39:37 AM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Mr. Jeeves,

I do believe you are confusing fractional reserve banking with the operations of the large ‘investment banks’ which are really trading houses.

The fractional reserve rate only applies to regular banks, like Bank of America or Washington Mutual. They are required to keep a certain percent of their reserve (the fraction) on hand in the form of liquid assetts: typically cash or T-bills.

The fractional reserve rate has not been anywhere near 1 in 8 (12.5%) for a while, but like most Fed stuff this fact is disguised in an avalache of weird financial footnotes and re-definitons.

Here is the Wikipedia article on Reserver Requirements:

A cash reserve ratio (or CRR) is the percentage of bank reserves to deposits and notes. The cash reserve ratio is also known as the cash asset ratio or liquidity ratio. In the United States, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System requires zero percent (0%) fractional reserves from depository institutions having net transactions accounts of up to $9.3 million.[1] Depository institutions having over $9.3 million, and up to $43.9 million in net transaction accounts must have fractional reserves totaling three percent (3%) of that amount.[2] Finally, depository institutions having over $43.9 million in net transaction accounts must have fractional reserves totaling ten percent (10%) of that amount.[3] However, under current policy, these numbers do not apply to time deposits from domestic corporations, or deposits from foreign corporations or governments, called “nonpersonal time deposits” and “eurocurrency liabilities,” respectively. For these account classes, the fractional reserve requirement is zero percent (0%) regardless of net account value.[4]

The “30 to 1” ratio frequently mentioned here and in the press lately is the amount of “leverage” that the “investment banks” have. Investment banks (until the Bear-Sterns bailout) have never been part of the Federal Reserve System. This is because, despite the fact that they are called “banks” they are really just giant trading houses. Their leverage is similar to the leverage you as a stock trader would have buying on margin.

I believe the SEC allows individual traders to get up to 50% margin, meaning if you invest a dollar in a stock you can get 50c of stock from the broker.

The situation of the large investment banks is that they have investments in the ratio of $30 for every real dollar of assetts they have.

It might be more akin to you having a $300,000 house with only $10,000 down. (Which come to think of it a lot of people did during this bubble).


14 posted on 08/02/2008 10:01:16 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I doubt that many more than the normalized annual failure rate will fail. Of course, if a sitting U.S. Senator declares any bank to be doomed, it will fail almost overnight. Possibly the most reckless infliction of unnecessary financial harm since the indictment of Arthur Andersen.


15 posted on 08/02/2008 10:15:41 AM PDT by Zebra
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To: Travis McGee
Used to be the King would order more tin or other base metals in the mix -- so the coins would be less gold or silver, or even copper. Nowadays there is no limit to the sovereign's theft by dilution.

About paper money we used to warn of John Law's scheme, and then of the Weimar wheelbarrows, and most recently Mugabe's Billion Dollar Bills. But what, in the end, can match Bernanke's helicopter distrubutions?

16 posted on 08/02/2008 10:22:12 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Nowadays there is no limit to the sovereign's theft by dilution.

So they've been diluting (printing) more than usual? How much more? Or is that just your feeling?

17 posted on 08/02/2008 11:09:43 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Yes, by taking in lost paper.


18 posted on 08/02/2008 11:19:27 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
What is "lost paper"?
What is taking in "lost paper"?
How is that like printing too much money?
19 posted on 08/02/2008 11:46:06 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Half the time it could seem funny, the other half's just too sad.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
What is lost paper? It's paper taken in by the Fed that is worthless.

What do YOU mean by "too much money"?

20 posted on 08/02/2008 11:57:57 AM PDT by bvw
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