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Want to drive Lefties nuts? Show them that Hitler borrowed the swastika from fellow USSR Socialists
Post Toasties

Posted on 07/30/2008 10:22:02 PM PDT by Post Toasties

One can really give the Leftist PC crowd a collective stroke by reminding them of the close relationship that the German National Socialists and the Soviet Communists shared regarding many of their political and sociological ideas and their symbology, particularly but not limited to their earlier days, such as when Adolf Hitler himself, in 1920, adopted the exact same version of the Leftist Swastika as the Soviet Union was using.

Unlike the traditional swastika with which it had little relationship, the Soviet/Nazi fylfot was of a 45 degree clockwise right hand type with particular proportions and had a specific assigned meaning, as it was described as being a stylized crossed letter 'S', representing Socialism.

This provides an excellent refutation of the modern Left Wing dogma that Nazis were right wingers. They were nothing of the sort. Fascism was merely a variant of Left Wing Socialism, just as Communism was.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: commies; fylfot; nazis; socialists
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Back of Early Soviet 5000 ruble banknote featuring three crossed 'S for Socialism' Swastikas:


1 posted on 07/30/2008 10:22:02 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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Also, the Nazis supported a wide variety of socialist give-away and cradle-to-grave programmes. Thanks for posting this.


2 posted on 07/30/2008 10:30:01 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Post Toasties

wow.

Bookmark.


3 posted on 07/30/2008 10:32:09 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: Army Air Corps

C’mon, there is not much difference between National Socialists and Soviet Socialists. They are both socialists. They were both terribly nationalistic.


4 posted on 07/30/2008 10:33:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Post Toasties

Godwin’s Law: the first person to suggest Hitler or Nazis in a debate: loses.

Don’t be dumb.


5 posted on 07/30/2008 10:33:51 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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There’s no debate - Godwin’s Law has nothing to do with my post.


6 posted on 07/30/2008 10:36:09 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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The Nazis were a total rip off & repackaging of Leftist ideology & ideals. Though the Swastika itself goes back even further to ancient times & has been used (& is still used in Hindu religious symbolism) by a number of other cultures around the world.


7 posted on 07/30/2008 10:36:50 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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Or, if you’d rather, it’s the Left that ‘mentioned’ Hitler and the Nazis in this context first. Perhaps you can remind them of Godwin’s Law.


8 posted on 07/30/2008 10:38:42 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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Dare not we post a picture of American school children giving a raised arm “Hitler salute” to the US flag.

National Socialism was rave here in the USA under Roosevelt.

To me, the comparison is moot. The Globalist Socialist Nazi's of today wear Armani, ski in Aspen and sip Cristal.

9 posted on 07/30/2008 10:39:14 PM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: endthematrix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h-YsC3Ksi8&NR=1


10 posted on 07/30/2008 10:41:36 PM PDT by Dick Holmes
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11 posted on 07/30/2008 10:42:01 PM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: Post Toasties

The hackenkreutz or broken cross (swastika) was a common motif in German occultist beliefs, specifically the Thule Gesellschaft (Thule Society).


12 posted on 07/30/2008 10:42:32 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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Thule Society is where Hitler picked it from I thought. Precursor and recruits to the brown shirts....correct?
13 posted on 07/30/2008 10:47:27 PM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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That was my understanding.


14 posted on 07/30/2008 10:55:37 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Post Toasties

I would say they borrowed it from the Navajo indians, theirs is the reverse of the German one.

My parents had a Navajo blanket that they picked up on their honeymoon in 1923 that was the swastica in reverse.


15 posted on 07/30/2008 10:56:59 PM PDT by dalereed (both)
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To: SpaceBar
I trying to locate an image of an armband of police in South Africa that was similar. IIRC it had three black lines on a white circle in field of red.
16 posted on 07/30/2008 11:02:43 PM PDT by endthematrix (Congress, Get Off Your Gas, And Drill!)
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To: Post Toasties
Interesting. The rest of the lettering on the note is in Cyrillic. Why would "crossed "S' use the roman alphabet?

It's dated 1918. Note the two headed eagle on the obverse. I think this is a Czarist note.

My Russian isn't that good. Any Russian speakers on the thread who can help?


17 posted on 07/30/2008 11:04:31 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF ("Gun Control" is not about the guns. "Illegal Immigration" is not about the immigration)
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"Classical" Socialism/Communism is international and non-racist. National Socialism is what the name implies: Socialism combined with Nationalism and/or racism.

In the Soviet Union Trotsky was the proponent of the first, while Stalin was a National Communist. Nazism is typical leftist/statist policies combined with some right-wing ideological elements, foremostly Nationalism.

18 posted on 07/30/2008 11:06:13 PM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

It’s definitely post Czarist, since they were deposed in 1917. These Soviet bank notes were designed after the Czarist reign and issued from later in 1917 until, I understand, 1922.


19 posted on 07/30/2008 11:11:22 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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Godwin’s Law huh? Is that one of the 10 commandments? Did Newton leave that one out? Is it part of the theory of relativity? Does it have something to do with the relationship between spending and nominial GDP?

I didn’t think so. I think Godwin’s law is a remark made by some attorney. So forgive me if I don’t find its authority up their with the laws of God or science?


20 posted on 07/30/2008 11:12:13 PM PDT by JLS
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