Network Won't Fire Michael Savage

Newsmax ^ | July 24, 2008 | Staff

[WilliamofCarmichael]

You have close connections to the Party? That 'splains a lot vis-a-vis Savage and others here.

(BTW, he has never hid his true name often over the almost 15 years referring listeners to his several books prior to his radio career.)

Savage has from the start rejected party affiliation -- a big plus for me because I loathe both the Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party) and the Republican Party. Levin is not too happy with many Republicans but I forget exactly the name he uses to label them.

Why do I hate the Party? It goes back a few years. I remember the Rockefeller Republicans joining the JFK/LBJ liberals and screaming "purveyors of hate!" "racist!" and more at Goldwater and supporters.

In the words of Nelson Rockefeller's public relations head, Stuart Spencer, "We had to destroy Barry Goldwater as a member of the human race." The Conservative Revolution: The Movement That Remade America, by Lee Edwards

It's what you guys do.

That 'splains your contumely and intolerance. You belong to a political party!

[lormand]

Maybe I would get a nod from Weiner fans if I had a picture of me next to Moonbeam instead of Dubya, Phil Gramm and John McCain.

I met John McCain while I was a voting delegate in 95' during the Louisiana State GOP Convention as President of the UofL Lafayette College Republicans. At that time, he was a pretty solid with an ACU rating of 94. We all know what happened after that.

Most Weiner fans admit to voting Dubya again if they had to do it again. Does that make you Al Qaeda if you didn't? Weiner logic would dictate this however.

Phil Gramm was one of the most Conservative members of the US Senate. His 2000 ACU rating was 100, and his lifetime rating was 94 before he retired.

Still you say...

"your 3 pictures where you are proudly fawning besides GOP bigwigs, all considered "Progressives" by most constitutional conservatives."

Would it be unfair for me to say that you are not grounded in reality?

[lormand]

"You belong to a political party!"

Do you believe that the opposite is a virtue?

One's ideology cannot be effectively propagated without one.

Weiner often says, "I'll never vote Republican again", then the next day saying that he has to so the rats don't win. Thats just one issue he often flip flops on. However, many of his fans aren't as manic as he is and don't flop as much as he flips.

When the GOP is brought back to the fold, I'll embrace it again wholeheartedly like I once did.

[lormand]

"It goes back a few years. I remember the Rockefeller Republicans joining the JFK/LBJ liberals and screaming "purveyors of hate!" "racist!" and more at Goldwater and supporters."

Wow, how dramatic an amazing stretch of "logic".

[djf]

Good thing he didn’t call anybody “nappy”, eh?

[whatisthetruth]

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[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: Wow, how dramatic an amazing stretch of "logic".

It was a declarative statement of fact.

Gov. Scranton called Goldwater and supporters "purveyors of hate." Rockefeller Republicans routinely intimated that Goldwater and supporters had KKK connections. LBJ/JFK liberals screamed it everyday.

I have not forgotten and I will not forget. The liberal wing of the Republican Party today is doing the same thing, I believe, by calling for an update to the definition/importance of conservatism and re-evaluating the importance of Reagan, some having already thrown Goldwater "under the bus" years ago.

At least some columnists have broached the subject.

[smedley64]

Not to get too involved with the pro-Savage/anti-Savage argument happening on this thread, but I agree that on the surface, Savage "flip flops" alot. It only appears so though, imo.

He's an emotional guy that loves his country and wears his heart on his sleeve, and that is bound to produce a lot of points that might appear to differ from one day to the next.

For instance, after Nick berg had his head cut off on videotape while surrounded by a bunch of chanting muslim satanists, Savage wanted Bush to level the entire city of Falujah and deal with the ramifications of that later. Then, after no one seemed to really care all that much about what happened to Berg, he took his frustrations out on Bush. So what? Politics is an ever fluid environment. Somedays, maybe a politician does something Savage can respect, and he will give them props, and the next, they will do something stupid, and he will rip them to shreds. That's just as it should be. Implying that Savage isn't a "conservative" is ludicrous though, at least imo. The first time I ever heard him, he was ripping Bush about something and I thought he was a liberal. The next time, he was ripping leftists and protecting Bush, and I realized that the guy is just a conservative that doesn't have his mind on autopilot when it comes to defending everyone and everything under the Republican party banner.

Great job, Savage. Keep up the great work. When Dems AND Repubs both hate your guts, you know you're doing something right.

[whatisthetruth]

After all, Weiner has a dog to feed.

Correction, Savage has 2 dogs to feed. As usual you're behind the curb when 'spewing' misinformation about Savage. You would make CAIR and Media Matters proud.

[whatisthetruth]

Well said Smedley, but the Savage haters are too blinded by hate to embrace the ‘truth’.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

RE: "a conservative that doesn't have his mind on autopilot when it comes to defending everyone and everything under the Republican party banner."

That's a good point and in general I agree with your comments about Savage and his show. I've listened to Savage almost from the day he started on local radio in S.F. Ditto Rush BTW, since the very first day he started on local radio in Sacramento.

Savage nor any of us need a party to tell what and how to think, if the party is wrong then it is our duty to not support it. It they are downright hostile as I have experienced vis-a-vis Goldwater then it's time to separate.

Or on matters like disrespecting our heritage as a Nation of laws not men; the Republican Party is wrong -- no matter how important docile, cheap and taxpayer subsidized ILLEGAL alien labor is for some Republicans.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Being a moron still makes you a moron. Wear it with pride!

So Savage is an individual and not a gentleman in the Republican club. He’s still a Conservative and you are still a moron.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

The correct term is “bald faced liar”. BALD. B - A - L - D. Buy a clue from Vanna.

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

Savage drives me nuts half the time, and half the time he seems to read my mind. But he is his own mand, and worms like Lormand don’t like that. They like Republican shills in the vein of Sean Hannity. I like Hannity, but crap, he generally just tows the Republican party line. Sure, he beat on them about immigration, but it’s still a rare divide.

Lormand doesn’t want to be challenged by a true Conservative like Savage who ONLY stands on his principles. Lormand seizes on the times Savage has co-opted liberals to fight a battle, like using Schumer to kill the Dubai Ports deal.

If Lormand hates Savage, he would have DESPISED Winston Churchill.

[whatisthetruth]

But he is his own man, and worms like Lormand don’t like that.

Your posts to Lormand seem to always describe him rather aptly, lol. He's tried for ages to get the Savage thread kicked off FreeRepublic, so of course he's believable when he says he's NOT wishing to get Savage kicked off the air, lol. With so-called conservatives like Lormand around who needs liberals?

[Freedom_Is_Not_Free]

I don’t like to insult anybody and I know FreeRepublic frowns on it. It is just frustrating. Occasionally I run into Freepers so dense or so uninformed, it is just frustrating. They try your patience.

[Checkers]

Facts and Undeniable Truths About Michael Alan Weiner, Who Goes By The Stagename "Michael Savage"

• On April 18, 2007, at approximately 25 minutes into the second hour of his show, Weiner stated: "WE NEED TO STOP FUNDING THE WAR IN IRAQ AND START FUNDING THE WAR ON OUR STREETS". That's an exact quote. Weiner was apparently referring to homeless "scum" (his term).
• On April 17, 2007, at approximately 45 minutes into the 1st hour of his show, Weiner said the shooting (at Virginia Tech) indicates our Gun laws are too lax.
• Like Rachel Maddox on Air America, Weiner used the Virginia Tech shooting to attack President Bush throughout the 1st hour of his show on April 17th, 2007
• On April 17, 2007, at approximately 20 minutes into the 3rd hour of his show, Weiner admitted he did not recognize the name Ken Blackwell.
• On April 17, 2007, at approximately 28 minutes into the 3rd hour of his show, Weiner attacked President Bush for not mentioning Jesus Christ when he spoke at Virginia Tech Convocation.
• Throughout his April 16 show (the day of the Virginia Tech shooting), Weiner used the massacre to repeatedly attack President Bush and Homeland Secretary Chertoff for their lack of leadership. Weiner never explained what he expected the President or the Secretary to do in the wake of the school shooting.
• During the first 30 minutes of his April 16, 2007 show, Weiner called Prime Minister Blair "Tony the Coward".
• Also during the first 30 minutes of his April 16, 2007 show, Weiner called the Republicans running for President in 2008 "empty-suits". Weiner singled out Mayor Rudolph Giuliani by name.
• On April 16, 2007, at approximately 50 minutes into the 3rd hour of his show, Weiner claimed that Rudolph Giuliani "wants to make America like New York". Weiner offered no proof or evidence for this assertion.
• Calls for the impeachment of G.W. Bush
• Weiner actually did support his Congresswoman, Madame Pelosi, when she met with the Murderer Assad before he was against her meeting with Assad.
• Weiner hates President Bush, except when he likes President Bush.
• In the middle of his April 4, 2007 show, Weiner threw a fit and suddenly was off the air even though he had ninety minutes left.
• On his Nov 20, 2006 show, Weiner hosted a love-in with Charlie Rangel.
• On his Nov 17, 2006 show, Weiner played a clip from some Israeli pot smokers and then extrapolated from this clip that all of Israel have become drug addicts.
• On his Nov 17, 2006 show, Weiner said that drug addicts should be executed.
• Weiner advocates cutting and running in Iraq.
• Weiner claims he hates San Francisco; yet, he continues to live there. (What's that about?)
• Provides money to a moonbat AG candidate in a border state
• Twice hosted Chuck Schumer in a blatant attempt to damage the GOP Senate Campaign during an election year.
• Routinely calls our fellow Americans morons and idiots
• Like his brethern on Air America, Weiner thinks multinational corporations conspire with each other
• Like his brethern on Air America, Weiner thinks the oil companies conspire with each other
• Supports the minimum wage
• Like his brethern on Air America, Weiner h ates Conservative icons like Rush Limbaugh
• Attacks other Conservatives more than Liberals
• Spews hatred and vile towards our Commander in Chief during a time of war
• Claims to be a sort of "Patton" on the War on Terror, but when the Israelis started bombing Lebanon, he turned into Cindy Sheehan
• Routinely asks callers a question, then ignores their answer and continues on maniacal rant.
• Called Cheney a liar, and said he didn't believe a word he says, ever.
• Called Bush a liar.
• Said the war in Iraq is purely for profit, get this, so that Haliburton can make money.
• Said there's no difference between the GOP and Dems.
• Called Rick Santorum "Sanitarium", and an idiot.
• Said he deserves most of the credit for the ports deal not going through, and since the GOP didn't give him credit, he won't support them in any way.
• Said it won't be so bad if Dems take over, outside of some minor social changes, nothing else will really change.
• Called this a broken nation with corrupt leadership, making fun of Bush, and his rationale for the war on terror, and war in Iraq.
• Called the GOP "the corrupt, war-mongering GOP"...
• He had a caller who said he was livid with the GOP, but since the Dems are much worse, he pleaded with Savage's listeners to get out and vote... With each sentence, Savage shouted him down.
• Fired by MSNBC for telling a caller to go get AIDS and die.
• He believes that the Clintons and Bush family have developed some sort of consortium and political syndicate together. For the next several years, they will stiff-arm the rest of the political world and alternate family members to the Presidency. Hillary is next, then followed by Jeb.
• In February 2007, Creative Artists Agency (a major talent and literary agency in Los Angeles) signed Michael Savage to represent him in all media. Within days however, it was reported that CAA had dropped Savage in response to anti-homosexual remarks he made regarding fellow CAA client.

Articles on Weiner

• Michael Savage: Left Winger
• Savaged: National Review
• Weiner gives money to Moonbat
• Savage's Moonbat Prediction of Election Outcome
• Weiner's Brown Donation
• Michael Savage: The Enemy Within (One of The Biggest Threats to Conservatives)

Video of Weiner

• Weiner's Outburst on MSNBC

[Checkers]

“...Media Matters, haters of all that is good, an organization led by of all things a Sodomite, how appropriate and symbolic.”

Are you implying that Weiner runs Media Matters?

[whatisthetruth]

Oh no! 'The List'

[Continental Soldier]

“The right to free speech does not include the right to a three-hour syndicated radio talk show.”

Yes, you are right - good point! I guess what bothered me was the eagerness with which so many embraced their ‘victimhood.’ As I heard them, Savage’s remarks were not directed at any specific individuals (unlike Imus), and his criticisms were not really new - such comments have been around for a while. Maybe they have merit; maybe they don’t. But the rush to silence such opinions seems to me to be a dangerous thing.