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A paler shade of black - Arab racism (rooted in Islamic heritage)
guardian ^ | March, 2008

Posted on 07/23/2008 8:22:35 AM PDT by Righting

Arabs.. racism.. it exists...

word 'abd - Arabic for "slave" - often used in our household... so common ..its negative connotations.. to anyone darker skin than themselves - from southern Sudanese house servants to migrants from Darfur- clear intent to demean.. addressing a particularly dark-skinned or thick-lipped child.

was a kind of racism that no one challenged, addressed,..through a child's eyes.. on a scale of colour, lighter was good, darker was bad. The word 'abd, although strictly meaning "slave" or "servant", became synonymous with negritude. my Islamic heritage reinforced this with quotes from Muhammad such as "You should listen to and obey your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian [ie black] slave whose head looks like a raisin" (Sahih Bukhari).

When we moved to E. Africa.. 'abd was seamlessly transferred to the locals whom we interacted only in their capacity as domestic staff , grounds-keepers at international schools. While I myself was "black" of North African descent, my family believed its Arab roots were somehow genetically dominant, giving us smaller features and a marginally lighter skin tone - deeming ourselves to be an entirely a different race from "pure" Africans.

Our next move was to Saudi Arabia, where the Arab ethnicity with which I identified so strongly was suddenly cast into doubt: now it was my turn to be the "slave". My belief that I was an Arab, racially superior to non-Arab Africans, became laughable in the heartland of Arabia - a place where "Arabness" was not only determined by skin colour but by whether you could uninterruptedly trace your lineage back to the founding father of your clan. In fact, ancestry is so important in Saudi Arabia that courts have the power to annul a marriage if gaps are later discovered in a person's lineage.. blood line pollution.

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To: potlatch; FARS; Cronos; PhilDragoo; null and void; Calpernia

Perhaps I should explain why I think the difference between the sunni/shia division in islam is important to this issue:

Aside from perhaps misidentifying the ‘candidate’ as shia by using the term 12th Imam...which to me appears to be exclusively a shia term, there’s the conflict between the two sects to consider.

If the ‘candidate’ accepted his arab-african ‘heritage’ from his father Obama Snr, it would be the sunni ‘heritage’ not shia.

Why might this be important to consider?

Because the sunni believe the shia are not fit to live.

If, in his dark heart obama identifies himself as sunni, as superior, as POTUS that would affect his foreign policy decisions. As ‘the great uniter’ his ambition would be to do what the prophecy requires. Unite the sects. And in arab-speak, ‘unite’ means totally subjugate.


101 posted on 07/25/2008 4:19:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: devolve

[No script or teleprompter and Obama turns into a babbling idiot!]

Yes, I wrote that to you the other day - that even during the debates he would start a comment, stop and go ‘ahh’ and then start on a whole new remark! I never thought he was a good speaker.


102 posted on 07/25/2008 4:51:37 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: Cronos
No, he could be Shia. Shia's broke away from Sunnis in the slammie civil war when the Shia's said that Mo's grandson Ali should be the grand poobah but the sunnis said, let us have our caliphs.

I am most interested in the period of the 'moslem revolt' in east africa that resulted in the establishment of the kalifa, the caliphate ruled by the 'Mahdi' - when Gordon was killed in Khartoum. When the British were defeated.

HISTORY LINK.

Mahdist Revolt

Main article: Mahdist War

Egyptian mismanagement eventually led to a revolt led by religious leader Muhammad ibn Abdalla, the self-proclaimed Mahdi (Guided One), who sought to purify Islam in Sudan. He led a nationalist revolt against Egyptian/British rule culminating in the fall of Khartoum and the death of the British General Charles George Gordon in 1885. The revolt was successful and Egypt and the British abandoned Sudan, and the resulting state was a theocratic Mahdist state.

arab influence and rule in Africa was sunni...

103 posted on 07/25/2008 4:51:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks; potlatch; FARS; Cronos; null and void; Calpernia; Grampa Dave; Jeff Head; ...
Shia, and some Sunni differ on the nature of the Mahdi. Shia as well as many Sunni, particularly Sufi Muslims,[2] believe that the Mahdi will appear at end times to bring about a perfect and just Islamic society. Twelver Shia believe the Mahdi will be Muhammad al-Mahdi, the twelfth Imam returned from occultation where he has been hidden by God since 874 AD. In contrast, mainstream Sunnis believe the Mahdi will be named Muhammad, be a descendant of the Prophet and will revive the faith, but will not necessarily be connected with the end of the world.

I posit Hussein sees himself as post-schism transcendent Muslim a la thesis-antithesis-synthesis, from Marx from Hegel from Kant.

In truth Hussein is sophomoric, literally the wise fool, in over his head, lost without his twenty-two speech writers and his Teleprompter, faking his way through a powerwashing of uh-uh-uh-uh, nose up, pronouncing his stutters in erudite phonics not homey ebonics.

I am the one I have been waiting for, says the motherless child of the mother showing mother, the fatherless child of the willing helpmate of JoMauMau Kenyatta, a son of Arab slavers.

Did the big Zero have any women before Michelle the Lockbox. Surely his daddies have been Uncle Frank and Mentor Wright and Father Phlegm, America-hating race-baiting Commies all, all demanding submission to the totalitarianism which is the last HOPE of losers.

In truth Obama is the creation, too, of Alinsky, counsellor of desperation, fellow-traveler of commies (what's mine is mine; what's yours is mine, Comrade). George Soros, sugar daddy, c'mere, kid, gonna make you a star. David Axelrod, shrieking fairy of Madison Avenue with graduate degree in racebaiting.

If you drag a baby through the world's bazaar of hate, he would get sticky-handed and dirty-faced as Big O has done. Ecce O is for Orphan from the Foster Home of Fascist Ideologies:


104 posted on 07/25/2008 5:15:48 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Fred Nerks; devolve

[unite’ means totally subjugate.]

Thank you Fred, that is a clear and concise account for those of us who don’t delve into it deeply.

Obama certainly thinks he is superior!
When I make a graphic, I like to have it factual.


105 posted on 07/25/2008 5:22:22 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: PhilDragoo

YIKES! BRILLIANT!

(I think that about covers it.)


106 posted on 07/25/2008 5:25:28 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: potlatch; Fred Nerks; devolve
OBAMA CERTAINLY THINKS HE'S SUPERIOR!

107 posted on 07/25/2008 5:33:23 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve

Lol, you must keep all this written on your arm up to the elbow in psychedelic magic markers!!

I read all this and forget, the rest of you read it and remember, maybe I need the markers!


108 posted on 07/25/2008 6:15:42 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: potlatch

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Multi-Bump


109 posted on 07/25/2008 6:28:56 PM PDT by devolve ( "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it." - Elect a cokehead *08 !)
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To: devolve

[Multi-Bump]

LOl, looks like you will have an easy evening! I’ll go scout out some threads.


110 posted on 07/25/2008 6:57:08 PM PDT by potlatch (MICHELLE OBAMA - The gift that just keeps on giving....!)
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To: darth
WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT SLAVERY!
 
Legacy of Arab-Islam in Africa: A Quest for Inter-Religious Dialogue.
by John Alembillah Alembillah Azumah
The dark secret of Islam and slavery of black people in Africa and the history of how Arab Muslims went to war on and captured black men, women and children and turned them into slaves.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGjJJhHvqY
Muslim Black slavery - Islam slave history of Black Africa

111 posted on 07/26/2008 5:30:05 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: DTA

Could you explain who planted this trojan horse, why, and how this has caused Africa to be by far the least civilised continent on the Planet?


112 posted on 07/26/2008 12:24:22 PM PDT by Hatter6
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To: rmlew

There are stories of whole villages being taken captive from South Western England.


113 posted on 07/26/2008 12:27:30 PM PDT by Hatter6
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To: Cronos

I don’t know the reason, but I guess it is similar to the reasoning behind Europeans not throwing off the yoke of Christianity and returning to Odinism or Druidism.


114 posted on 07/26/2008 12:29:20 PM PDT by Hatter6
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To: DTA; 2banana
Why some embrace the cult that murdered hundreds of millions of their ancestors escapes logic and sense of dignity.

When you are so angry you can't see straight, it's not hard to believe the enemy of your enemy is your friend.

115 posted on 07/26/2008 12:31:17 PM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: Hatter6

Not really — Druidism or the Nordic religions were primitive, no deep philosophy: quite unlike Zoroastrianism.


116 posted on 07/28/2008 5:53:10 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Fred Nerks

fair dinkum, mate. Though, I was talking about the origin of the “Mahdi” idea.


117 posted on 07/28/2008 5:55:32 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Cronos

Unfortunately, due to the ruthlessness of Christian censorship in Europe, little of these religions remain. However, there is plenty of evidence that these religions were very complex. Either way, there is no evidence that they were ‘primitive’ (a highly subjective term), just a lack of proof that they wre not. Anyway, depth of philosophy will generally decrease the number of people interested in it, not the reverse. In general, the mob will go for the simplest religions, which is partly (along with force) why Christianity and Islam have been so successful at obtaining believers - any moron can follow them.


118 posted on 07/28/2008 12:27:35 PM PDT by Hatter6
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To: Hatter6
Not really -- I don't see any evidence that druidism or Odinism was anything more complex than a series of Gods and their families and fighting among themselves. SImilar to Hinduism, yes, but Hinduism has a deep philosophy like pre-Zoroastrianism or Zoroastrianism (Irani and Indic Aryans), which is not apparent amongst the european Aryans, not even among the romans -- Greek philosophy was more inclined towards atheism.

Your last statement is intriguing.
119 posted on 07/29/2008 9:00:19 AM PDT by Cronos ("Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant" - Omar Ahmed, CAIR)
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To: Cronos

No, as I said, there is little remaining literature on Odinism and Druidism, all we have is indirect accounts, such as the Eddas. So we have little evidence that they were or were not ‘primitive’. However, all the Polytheistic religions of the Eurasian land-mass seem to have many similarties, and it is possible that European Polytheism was of similar philosophical depth as, say, Hinduism. This is complicated, though, by the Tantric, Dravidian influence on the latter. I accept, though, that Polytheistic religions are incomparable with the Monotheism of Zoroastorianism. Your point about Odinism being about a ‘series of Gods and their families fighting amongst themselves’ could be applied to Greek Religion and also Hinduism.

It stands to reason, though, that most religions with multiple Gods (Gods for different characters, different attitudes, different philosophies, different instincts) will be more complex than those with one God, and one philosophy, which the truly Religious use to make people obey what they say this God has said. Which was the meaning behind my last point, that the Mob love Moralistic Monotheism because:

A: They can understand it more easily than a truely Artistic, higher religion (for higher people), with multiple Gods and thus multiple layers of philosophy.

B: It allows them Moral power over others. And this is the only power that the weak-willed will ever have. Monotheism tends towards a slave-morality.


120 posted on 07/29/2008 4:25:08 PM PDT by Hatter6
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