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The Success of the Surge Seemingly Puts Obama on the Defensive
abcnews.com ^ | July 15, 2008 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 07/15/2008 3:26:36 PM PDT by kellynla

Though a majority of the American people support ending the war in Iraq and think the invasion was a mistake, Republicans have tried to put Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, into a box as he prepares for his first trip to Iraq since securing his party's presidential nomination.

Weeks ago, after Obama said he would be willing to listen to commanders in the ground to "refine" his policy, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Republicans said Obama was flip-flopping.

Then after Obama clarified that he is sticking by his plans to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq within 16 months, McCain and Republicans painted him as an intransigent partisan whose pending trip to Iraq is nothing more than a photo op.

"Senator Obama is departing soon on a trip abroad that will include a fact-finding mission to Iraq and Afghanistan," McCain said today at a town hall meeting in Albuquerque, "And I note that he is speaking today about his plans for Iraq and Afghanistan before he has even left, before he has talked to General Petraeus, before he has seen the progress in Iraq, and before he has set foot in Afghanistan for the first time. In my experience, fact-finding missions usually work best the other way around: first you assess the facts on the ground, then you present a new strategy."

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; cicobama; flipflops; foreignpolicy; iraq; jaketapper; mccain; muslim; obama; sleeper; surge; war

1 posted on 07/15/2008 3:26:37 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla
Boy howdy, ABC news sure does a good job of explaining obama-sama's position for him.
Think they could as good a job explaining McCain's position for him, or would they just make him look like a doofus?
2 posted on 07/15/2008 3:29:42 PM PDT by jeffc (They're coming to take me away! Ha-ha, he-he, ho-ho!)
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To: kellynla
In my experience, fact-finding missions usually work best the other way around: first you assess the facts on the ground, then you present a new strategy."

LOL... I'm glad the MSM let this be printed and that McCain starts to attack Obama...

3 posted on 07/15/2008 3:30:02 PM PDT by paudio (Like it or not, 'conservatism' is a word with many meanings. Yours may be different from mine.)
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To: kellynla

One thing you can say about McCain, he is a master of the one liner.

Pray for W and Our Troops


4 posted on 07/15/2008 3:30:19 PM PDT by bray (Drill Congress!!)
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The annointed one, Obama not only has most of his facts flip flopping all over the place on the draw back from Iraq, he now has his minions closing down sites on the net he doesn’t like. It was on Brit Hume’s news show just a few minutes ago. What a guy, closing em down if they say something he, Obama, doesn’t like!!!!!! We can’t wait for Obama’s trip to Iraq!


5 posted on 07/15/2008 3:32:46 PM PDT by cousair
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To: kellynla

bump


6 posted on 07/15/2008 3:35:30 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: paudio

Yep, it’s a good snappy comeback that also brings up the little matter of experience...nicely planted bomb...let’s see if Husseins crowd fall for it.


7 posted on 07/15/2008 3:36:04 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (With McCain around we can proudly proclaim, WE ARE SO SCREWED)
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To: kellynla
Though a majority of the American people support ending the war in Iraq and think the invasion was a mistake,

B.S.! The premise is wrong, and as usual the DBM is FOS...

A majority of Americans do NOT think the Iraqi invasion was a mistake. They think it was called for! Bush did the right thing and history will prove him right, and the MAJORITY of Americans know he was right!

8 posted on 07/15/2008 3:44:21 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Vote Conservative Repuplican!!)
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To: kellynla
....as he prepares for his first trip to Iraq since securing his party's presidential nomination.

Actually, it will be Obama's first trip to Iraq since 2006. Nice try Jake.

9 posted on 07/15/2008 3:54:55 PM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: kellynla

Boy oh boy, everyone is noticing Obambi has flamed out. The bet on the war being a lost cause has proved to be a suckers bet. Not even the best jive talker can schuck and jive out of that crack.


10 posted on 07/15/2008 3:55:28 PM PDT by Tarpon (Ignorance, the most expensive commodity produced by mankind.)
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To: kellynla

“Though a majority of the American people support ending the war in Iraq and think the invasion was a mistake, Republicans have tried to put Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, into a box...”

Let’s rewrite this so it’s more truthful...

Though a majority of the American people support our troops, the sycophant left wing press traitors tried painting a halo on Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, and covered up his bumbling pronouncements on Iraq that would plunge the area into chaos and destruction..


11 posted on 07/15/2008 3:57:48 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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To: jeffc
"Your Iraq policieees will be dictated by meee, Obama! You belong to meeeee, hissssss!!!!"


12 posted on 07/15/2008 4:23:15 PM PDT by Prole (Pray for the families of Chris and Channon.)
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To: kellynla

The Lord Messiah Barack Obama spelled out a plan for Iraq, and in the process articulated President Bush’s strategy for the war on terrorism — a strategy that’s protected us from terrorist attacks since 9/12/01—Rush

YoBombo’s web site use to be negative about the surge and now has been scrubbed of that notion but he attributes it to the Iraqis and not our troops.

I’m still waiting on info from anyone that has that version in pdf. I would have but I never go to the devil’s den.


13 posted on 07/15/2008 5:23:54 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: kellynla

Obama’s people are no dummies. The surge is working, so they are focusing on Afghanistan and the recent increase in combat deaths there.


14 posted on 07/15/2008 6:50:02 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813
“Obama’s people are no dummies”

the ‘Rat party are a bunch of dummies for not vetting this anti-American racist any better than they did...

McCain has to be the luckiest GOP candidate for POTUS since Reagan ran against Jimmy Carter

my cat could beat Obama...

15 posted on 07/15/2008 8:15:25 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla
Seemingly.

The press is shameless. And the left is bankrupt.

16 posted on 07/16/2008 5:14:23 AM PDT by JasonC
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To: paudio; kellynla; jeffc; cousair; Tarpon; montag813
MSM picking up on Obama....FR Thread:

Obama website's opposition to successful surge gets deleted (MSM commentary....)

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Los Angeles Times ^ | July 16, 2008 | -Andrew Malcolm

Posted on Wed 16 Jul 2008 09:39:32 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

A funny thing happened over on the Barack Obama campaign website in the last few days.

The parts that stressed his opposition to the 2007 troop surge and his statement that more troops would make no difference in a civil war have somehow disappeared. John McCain and Obama have been going at it heavily in recent days over the benefits of the surge.

The Arizona senator, who advocated the surge for years before the Bush administration employed it, says the resulting reduction in violence is proof it worked with progress on 15 of 18 political benchmarks and Obama's plan to withdraw troops by now would have resulted in surrender.

When President Bush ordered the surge in January, 2007, Obama said, "I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq is going to solve the sectarian violence there. In fact, I think it will do the reverse,"  a position he maintained throughout 2007. This year he acknowledged progress, but maintained his position that political progress was lacking.

Tuesday, while Obama gave a speech on foreign policy, the New York Daily News was first to notice the removal of parts of Obama's campaign site listing the Iraq troop surge as part of "The Problem." An Obama spokeswoman said it was just part of an "update" to "reflect changes in current events," as our colleague Frank James notes in the Swamp. The update includes a new section on the rise of al-Qaeda violence in Afghanistan.

17 posted on 07/16/2008 11:56:48 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: kellynla
Though a majority of the American people support ending the war in Iraq>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The majority of Americans thnk there is only one way to end the war in Iraq: WIN IT!

The MSM leftist prigs at ABC want our nation to tail tuck and run. They missed their chance and now seek to hoodwink America.

18 posted on 07/16/2008 8:25:41 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Expose Obama))
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To: Candor7

>> “Though a majority of the American people support ending the war ...”

Media bias injection


19 posted on 07/16/2008 8:31:37 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: kellynla
"Senator Obama is departing soon on a trip abroad that will include a fact-finding mission to Iraq and Afghanistan,">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Fact Finding? Hardly. It will be a reunion with his Muslim brothers.

Then Obama will return braying like a donkey about how his diplomacy will bring about a messianic result of "peace in our times."

Obama is a stone cold idiot when it comes to patriotism.

I do not believe that the American people will stand behind this petty Marxist turncoat dictator in the making.

20 posted on 07/16/2008 8:46:18 PM PDT by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, (Expose Obama))
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