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District Leaders Announce New Handgun Regulations
The Washington Post ^ | July 14, 2008 | Robert E. Pierre and Marcia Davis

Posted on 07/14/2008 5:09:07 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy

District residents will be able to keep a handgun in the home for self-defense but that right would be limited to the home and not outside it, city leaders said today, announcing new gun regulations in response to the Supreme Court's recent ruling striking down the city's handgun ban.

Gun owners will have to pass vision and written tests, provide a photo with their application to register a gun, and submit their weapon for ballistics testing. Guns will also still require trigger locks.

Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D) and interim Attorney General Peter J. Nickles announced the regulations alongside D.C. Council Chairman Vincent G. Gray (D), Phil Mendelson (D-At Large) and several other council members.

The regulations are an effort to maintain some gun control while complying with the Supreme Court's 5 to 4 ruling last month.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; fenty; guns; handguns; heller; shallnotbeinfringed
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To: Bubba_Leroy

They just don’t get it, do they?


181 posted on 07/15/2008 7:02:18 PM PDT by RockinRight (I just paid $63 for gas. An icefield in Alaska is NOT the Grand Canyon. F--- the caribou.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

It is my understanding that between June 26th and now, there were NO ANTI-GUN LAWS in effect in the District of Criminals. Therefore between then and now, anyone could have legally bought ANYTHING from ANYONE, subject only to the Infringements of the Fed.gov! Why not buy it NOW, and SAY you bought it then???


182 posted on 07/15/2008 7:13:40 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: dynachrome

It is to make sure that a majority of citizens are criminals at any given time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bingo, these offspring of feminine canines don’t want law abiding citizens, they want us all to be lawbreakers and they want us to feel very guilty about it!


183 posted on 07/15/2008 7:38:35 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Is it STILL too soon to just shoot the bastards?


184 posted on 07/15/2008 7:41:28 PM PDT by RipSawyer (Does anyone still believe this is a free country?)
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To: backhoe
What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t they get?

They get it. They just don't care. Unless the President or the Congress gets involved, they see no need to obey the Heller decision. It's time for the Congress to use its "exclusive" legislative authority over the District.

185 posted on 07/15/2008 7:55:48 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: supercat; hiredhand; NFHale; Squantos
cops are allowed to be ignorant of the laws they 'enforce'and prosecutors can prosecute 'bad' law if they choose to.

And while both should be held to a very high standard [being entrusted with life & liberty] and should be prosecuted for violations, the scum that bold faced says F.U to The People by blatantly drafting and passing 'law' that is in obvious conflict with established case law [such as Heller] or plain English [such as 'shall not be infringed' ] shouldve been summarily bound and publicly lynched or shot on the council lawn...

ANYTHING less, which is what weve NOT done in a hundred years, just furthers the degradation of the Republic and allows these POS continue their agenda...

The Govzilla monster has outgrown its cage and individually we all know we're martyr wannabes if we oil the pitchfork alone...

that is why it will continue to be litigated till hell freezes over or socialism finally wins...whichever comes first...

LFOD...

186 posted on 07/15/2008 8:21:22 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: RipSawyer

In DC’s case, I thing the awkward time passed years ago.


187 posted on 07/15/2008 8:30:20 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: BCR #226

“DC can’t afford to fight another lawsuit and they can’t justify the expense to the tax payers.”

Are you kidding? Tyrants will not spare a nickel your money in order to enslave you.


188 posted on 07/15/2008 8:32:01 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: angkor

Don’t worry. They said you could unlock and or assemble it IF you thought that your life might be in immediate danger. Wasn’t that nice of them?


189 posted on 07/15/2008 8:35:09 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Gilbo_3
cops are allowed to be ignorant of the laws they 'enforce'and prosecutors can prosecute 'bad' law if they choose to.

If a cop arrests someone for something that is not a crime, the cop should at minimum receive a written reprimand and, more importantly, no longer be able to claim ignorance.

BTW, one thing I would like to see would be a means by which citizens could participate in prosecutions. Given the rules against double jeopardy, having a separate trial for the state prosecutor and a private one wouldn't be practical, but allowing both state and private prosecutors to present evidence and examine witnesses might not be unreasonable. Currently, there's nothing to prevent states from deliberately throwing certain cases (especially against government employees). If a private prosecutor could introduce evidence and ask questions that the state prosecutor neglected, that would seem to solve that problem.

As to whether private prosecutors should only be allowed when government officials are on trial, or whether their role should be broader, I don't know. Applying the concept more broadly would have some advantages, but also some risks. What would you think?

190 posted on 07/15/2008 8:47:25 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
Im no lawyer, [thank God, and no offense to decent folk who are] but IF we are to be encumbered with the 1000S of junk laws out there, then having double jeopardy voided for common folk would be dangerous [where a private prosecutor could guarantee more 'felony' charges/convictions for stuff like traffic/vehicle equipment laws etc]

However, IMO, IF we could toss 90% of the 'laws' on the books, [of which most are pretty unconstitutional in spirit, if not on the face] then the system would work more transparently and the goons that attempt to write this kinda crap wouldnt have much cover anyhow...tar and feathers would become a fashion statement for socialists once again...

I said elsewhere that 2000 yrs ago politicians were considered scum even by sinners' standards...the US revolution was a high point [where good men 'served' and actually led] and now we are full circle to the bottom feeders...AGAIN...

the 'lesson' may be right around the corner for those who think man has any redeeming qualities when entrenched with unlimited power... my .02

191 posted on 07/15/2008 9:19:56 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Gilbo_3
...then having double jeopardy voided for common folk would be dangerous

Double jeopardy protection applies to everyone in all criminal proceedings. The role of private prosecutors would only be to present questions, arguments, and evidence that the state's attorney does not; such presentation would occur at the same trial as the state's.

BTW, I would suggest that the same approach should be involved in cases that involve overlapping state and federal jurisdiction; the defendant should be allowed to have both sets of charges heard by the same jury.

192 posted on 07/15/2008 9:26:43 PM PDT by supercat
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To: supercat
double jeopardy wouldnt be voided per se, but imagine a requirement that the code pink legal branch etc may bring every last detail to rack up charges, especially in an un-Constitutional case like Heller, the fine print would screw the proceedings...and bog the system,

unless the system was reduced 90%...

Have you ever been summoned [deputy on the front porch, papers in hand] to "garbage court" ??? I have

Neuter the beast, reduce that pure number of restrictions of freedom [laws]...thats my vision...

LFOD...

193 posted on 07/15/2008 9:53:34 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Trust in the Lord...vote yer conscience...=...LiveFReeOr Die...)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Yes, from the ruling itself (I don't have a link as I saved the pdf file locally):

3. The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment. The District’s total ban on handgun possession in the home amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of “arms” that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self-defense. Under any of the standards of scrutiny the Court has applied to enumerated constitutional rights, this

Cite as: 554 U. S. ____ (2008) 3
Syllabus

prohibition—in the place where the importance of the lawful defense of self, family, and property is most acute—would fail constitutional muster. Similarly, the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional. Because Heller conceded at oral argument that the D. C. licensing law is permissible if it is not enforced arbitrarily and capriciously, the Court assumes that a license will satisfy his prayer for relief and does not address the licensing requirement. Assuming he is not disqualified from exercising Second Amendment rights, the District must permit Heller to register his handgun and must issue him a license to carry it in the home. Pp. 56–64. 478 F. 3d 370, affirmed.

194 posted on 07/15/2008 10:17:59 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Guns will also still require trigger locks.

But does it say specifically that the locks must be used?

My guess is that if the locks are NOT in use and a registered gun is used unlawfully or by someone not legally able to use one, then that will be the basis for legal action against the registered user. EX: If it's stolen from the home and used in a crime.

195 posted on 07/16/2008 8:36:01 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

This is “Jim Crow” for firearms..ironic huh? I live across the river from our nations’ capital in Virginia. There is an old saying here, that if I am injured in D.C., please get me across the 14th St. bridge to Va. before you call an ambulance. At this very moment, the D.C. real estate tax office is reeling from an investigation into the theft of an estimated 50 million dollars by the head of that office. The WaPo is currently running a series on the bothched investigation into the 2001 murder of Chandra Levy, the intern who was having an affair with congressman Gary Condit (D-Ca). My apologies to residents of D.C., but to quote The Joker-Jack Nicholson...”This town needs an enema.”


196 posted on 07/16/2008 6:28:49 PM PDT by W.Lee ("Leave the gun, grab the canoli.")
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To: Bubba_Leroy; AuntB; SierraWasp

I swear I normally shoot one shot at a time...lessin their was a liberal, radical envirowhack in the sights ....Then I might lock on the trigger and let er’ rip till I’m completely out of lead!


197 posted on 07/16/2008 8:50:28 PM PDT by Issaquahking ("What did you do for America today?")
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To: Issaquahking

Well, it sure didn’t take ‘em long to show their contempt of court and the Ten Amendments. They act like they don’t even belong in this country and probably will welcome the Obamas into their outlaw District with their contempt for our national traditions and culture!!!


198 posted on 07/16/2008 8:59:22 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not against the environment, just GovernMental EnvironMentalism!!! (our new state religion))
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To: Bubba_Leroy

The constitution trumps this leftist council of pigs. I urge DC residents to ignore these directives and enjoy their full constitutional rights.


199 posted on 07/17/2008 5:27:20 AM PDT by Impy (Hey Barack, you're ugly and your wife smells.)
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To: Enterprise

The right to keep and bear arms is as much a right as the right to vote. So since the court has ruled you can’t require a test to vote, I don’t see how they will allow a written test to own a handgun.


200 posted on 07/17/2008 2:14:32 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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